DR. TOM....
Start your own c-silver list
You can call it "MDs only colloidal silver mailing list"
See how much you learn........that is if you are even interested in
learning in the first place.
BTW, I have little comprehension why someone as clever as you
would make a career
in radiology.
I wouldn't be caught dead in any rad unit due to exposure and
don't go on and tell me how you were protected.
X rays have a use but I would not spend time near the
units.Radiation for cancer is truly
for fools unless done in the way that Andy Grove did it
Dan
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> From: Tom Clayton, MD <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Look into yourself
> Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 11:42 PM
>
>
> Scott:
>
> Is this your correct email---noah?
>
> Scott Berner <[email protected]>
>
> I would like you to answer the questions about
> what formal scientific training you have had, degrees
> and so forth. It is one thing to have been formally
> trained in rigorous programs with objective testing
> to demonstrate that you have the ability to understand
> scientific concepts and it is quite another to pontificate
> without having that training. Most people who are capable
> of competing with others intellectually in rigorous training
> programs think twice before they offer opinions on those
> things that they do not truly understand.
>
> By the way, I appreciated Mike's comments. You
> are clearly argumentative and offensive with your
> comments and observations and the fact that you do
> not recognize that this is the case is part of the main
> problem.
>
> Your comments are set forth in "ad hominem" style,
> which means that they are "directed to the man"
> rather than to the subject matter. Fundamentalist
> religious zealots absolutely cannot stand certain
> groups of people and are the first to attack. They
> need something to hate, and it seems that the AMA
> is your target. There may be other things that you
> "hate". Never mind that pharmaceutical companies
> have done some marvelous things with research that
> can help the little girl with diabetes far more than wood
> alcohol diatribes. Never mind that there are many different
> facets to medical care in this country. Let's form a hate
> club and just throw it all away---you are right and every-
> body else is wrong! Noah and his ark?
>
> This attitude is totally contrary to religion as I understand
> it, but then I am not a fundamentalist. I note that you
> concluded that I was not religious simply because I asked
> you if your religious sayings had any business on a list
> about colloidal silver after you challenged me that my
> comments were not appropriate on a silver list. You came
> to the wrong conclusion with less basis for that conclusion
> more quickly than anyone else I have ever met. This is
> not how the scientific method works.
>
> Furthermore, it is clear that colloidal silver is a very
> simple chemical concept. You make it (or better yet
> purchase from a manufacturer with quality controls who
> can accurately give you concentration levels rather than
> crude estimates based on the color of the solution) with
> some electrodes to form a particle solution and take
> it according to body weight. Therefore, what is all this
> "knowledge" you are supposed to know that makes you
> so valuable that the list cannot exist without you?
> The intelligent mind simplifies, not complicates.
>
> You do not know what you do not know, and that
> is the major problem. As these observations are certain
> to make you "mad", despite the fact that they are only
> brutally honest, as are any other comments that point
> out your inconsistencies or the fact that you may not
> truly be of the caliber that you think you are ("noah"
> to your sheep?), just keep in mind that if you want to
> be honest with others then you have to start with
> yourself. Giving your "honest" opinion to everyone else
> about things that you do not even begin to understand
> is not being honest---it is being shallow and very
> self-centered.
>
> Sorry to break this news to you, as it will probably
> go in one ear and out the other, but someone has to at
> least once. God help you, because you need it.
>
> Tom Clayton
>
