Ivan,

I have come to a similar apraisal of CS Pro's technique & marketing hype
for quite a while; have not named them specificly, but have made my
misgivings about the HVAC generating methods available on my CS pages
at:

http://web.idirect.com/~showcase/althealth/csilver.htm

I also find their pricing a bit high... seems the average person with
health challenges, looking to CS as a helpful approach, is often
'financially challenged' also. I've tried to get across the message,
"you don't have to spend big bucks to make your own highly effective
CS".

Limited current in CS generating processes shows promise; several list
members have commented on this, and further research and testing is
being done. 

I've experimented with pulsed DC in order to minimize undesirable
mechanical aspects- i.e., bridging of plated out 'silver sludge' between
closely spaced electrodes, and minimizing / elimination of the
mechanical re-dispersal of the 'sludge' caused by H2 gas evolution at
the Cathode (negatively charged electrode.)

Questions & comments always welcome!

Be Well!

Bruce


> Ivan Anderson wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
> I am very pleased to have become a member of the silver-list. I have
> developed a great interest in CS after using some in Dec 97 to clear
> an intractable eye infection, traditional drugs having little effect.
> CS has had little exposure here in N.Z., the health food associations
> have never heard of it, most is imported from Australia or U.S., so
> after some intense study I have started manufacturing CS for sale.
> I have found a microbiologist who thinks this product is the greatest
> thing since sliced bread and is giving me support and guidance. We
> have embarked on an intensive testing program the results of which I
> will share with you via the list.
> That being said, perhaps I may comment on some recent postings.
> Ozonised water
> Ozone is widely used in Europe in place of clorine to treat town water
> supplies, swimming pools etc.It is much more biologically active than
> clorine and leaves no residue.Ozone has a very short half-life and
> would degenerate to oxygen within an hour at room temp. Ozonised water
> can be said to be sterile. Pure water is a technical term which is, I
> believe, deionised (to prevent precipitation and fouling of distilling
> equip) and passed through a distilling mechanism via continuous loop
> at least three times. Interestingly I understand the distillation
> process de-energises water molecules by reducing the angle between the
> hydrogen bonds and that ozonising water restores this angle and hence
> the energy contained.
> Silver is quite stable in pure air and pure water ie it is not readily
> oxidised. The tarnishing that some talk of is NOT oxidation but
> sulphidation due to the high affinity of silver for sulphide. This is
> not a problem with CS made with pure or distilled water. However, the
> UV part of ambient light will cause some ozone to be produced in water
> and ozone will oxidise silver, this is one reason to keep CS in amber
> containers or at least in the dark. I am not sure if photons can canna
> neutralise the Ag+ ion which would result elemental siver particles
> and perhaps plating out.
> 
> CS'PRO'
> Mark asked if anyone had any experience with CS'PRO' systems good or
> bad. I haven't any experience with their systems but I went and had a
> look at their web site and read the 'Editorial' and 'TechNotes' pages,
> boy, talk about baffling with B.S.. In these pages they contradict
> themselves and use chemistry terms and concepts of which they
> demonstrate no understanding. They also questioned the effectiveness
> and safety of Ionic CS (which by definition their system cannot
> produce). I started to make a list of statements and assertions which
> I thought needed clarification, but the list was just getting to big.
> The bottom line: Low voltage DC systems produce Ionic CS of the most
> bioavailable size (0.01 - 0.001 microns in distilled water, when used
> correctly) which is greater than 300 times more bioactive than
> non-ionic elemental silver colloid. And how much does their system
> cost?
> 
> Sorry about that last paragraph but it annoys me to see people being
> misled because of the ignorance (or worse) of some vendor.
> Well that's my spray for today.
> Cheers to you all.
> Ivan


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