Request By Johnny Burton to post this to the lists Subject: The Real Cisco or " Fredrick Botten " of Guam Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 05:40:06 +0000 From: Johnny Burton <thau...@bellsouth.net> To: Rifers <rif...@majordomo.net> The all concerned. The below is part of a letter sent to a friend a few weeks ago. It concerns Rick " Cisco " and his way of life. If you are so incline to donate anything for any reason to him I suggest you think twice. I have talked with Stanley Truman after his 2 week trip to Guam to visit Cisco. After the phone call it was evident I am a fool. The following is to let you know what has transpired in the last few months between Cisco and I. There is only one reason I would announce being so foolish to the world. This is keep it from happening to anyone else. ***************** I will cut this very short for the whole story spans months. About the first of this year was my second real contract with Rick. The first was with his trying to get a sweep made for his Lodestar. This lasted only only a few weeks due to a communication problem. I couldn't figure out exactly what he was trying to do. Once I did figure it out he had solved the problem himself, so he said. Anyway about the first of this year we merged again. Some time around February he asked, or joking asked if I could spare the money for his boat. I declined. A few weeks later he asked again. By this time I thought he was just a fellow that needed a break. I started to think of ways I could help and not create a burden on me in case something went wrong in the deal or my work. This was done by refinancing my house which did indeed help if payments where made as promised. The loan was made around the middle of April. The money was transferred to his banking account by my bank. The Bank Papers are the only proof of the loan. I made an agreement that I sent to him that more or less stated in the event of my death the boat would belong to him even it was not paid for. He argue that this would not work and sent me a contract to read, sign, notarize and send back for him and he would do the same on his end. I did just this. I have not yet seen its return, nor a payment, nor have I heard hardly anything from him explaining why except that it takes 8 weeks for any delivery. He was also was supposed to of sent a box containing pictures and gifts for my wife and myself. This has not been seen. He told me he mailed it off and it was returned back to him because of the wrong address. I would have believe him except for two things. One, he asked where to send it to and received a post with the address on it. Two, He said he copied the address from a label on one of the boxes I had sent him and I had spelled the my address wrong. He was doing good until he said TN was spelled TENN. I have not used this in years mainly because I am lazy. By this time I was getting quite aggravated but I had order some Powder Copper for him to put on boats. I told him I would not send it until a payment was made. He said a payment had been made. 3 trips to the bank proved otherwise with his explanation being he forgot to sign the draft. Of course this didn't make the payment ether and about the same time his wife became ill. Well, seeing as how I already had the copper order and had to buy it then I went ahead and sent it. This is really the part that torque me the most. It was bad enough I had sent him $27,000 and had no proof of anything to do with the boat I was now going to have to provide a means for him to pay it back. After I told him it was on its its way he was very excited. He made the statement " he would not have to do any construction work for 2 months" I was also to receive $1500 in payments in a week or so. This was over a 1 month ago or should have arrived in June. He knows as well as I that I have very few options in this matter. I have found the fellow he brought the boat from and talked with him. The title was turned over to Rick and he didn't know how it was filled out. Rick's original plan was the boat would be in my name until it was paid for. This changed after he received the money to it was in his name and I was the lean holder. I feel this is not on the title ether. Rick also owes Moss McAfee ( the original boat owner ) for a truck according to Moss. Rick broke off email shortly before the money was transferred. All the statements he made are only what I remember ( FT ) so I have no proof of any of them. I do, I feel, have enough to put him in a bind if I wanted to spend a lot of money to do so. This is not my way. I have proven to myself I am a fool. While I am not in a financial bind because of it; my house note will now be prolonged by 5 years to pay for this mistake and lesson. There can be no doubt that letting your heart lead the way is very costly not to mention just plain stupid. The statement about not having to do any work for 2 months proves to me he is a loafer and if at anyway possible he will live off of other people if given the chance. The name I have always refereed to these people by is Parasite. The only recourse I "may" take now is to warn people of what I think his intentions are in his request for donations. He has stated these would pay for the boat " this is on file ". At one time I would have believe they would have gone to better others in need. The truth, I fear, is that he will use this money to live on so he will not have to work to support his ways. It would be very hard for me to forgive something that I have to be reminded of every month. This is my nightmare for the next 5 to 10 years. The spare money I once used to give things to people will now be greatly reduced to pay for Rick's Boat. This still has not change my attitude towards helping those that need it. I can not condemn the world for the things one person does or my mistake. I have made many donations to him already with no payment intended back. These total about $700 easy. This was not the case with the Boat and he even made up the contract. Oh this is good too. In it, it states that if two payments are missed in a row the boat will be sold to pay off the loan. Catchy hun! In closing I will say I have been blinded by words of someone I thought to be in need. This appears to only be the case because he doesn't work on regular bases, eat correctly as he states he does and drinks beer as a main diet. If you chose not to believe any of this that is your choice. I do have enough past email to prove most or all I have stated. Most of the last correspondence was done on FreeTell so there is no records of the last few months of dialogue. I see no need to post anything else. If you still wish to donate to him you are a bigger fool then I. His statement about Indonesia, work with Clayton, and anything else is now very questionable. I can give no response to these because one I don't know and two I no longer believe anything he has to say. Where the lies stop and truth start is no longer known. Johnny Burton -- Peace and Health to you and may the White Light protect you Barbara and Brian in OZ VK5KBW http://www.senet.com.au/~brains/intro.htm -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@id.net>