Haloo John, and welcome to the silver list! Slow down a bit, mate! I'll comment on a few items and leave the rest for others! <grin>
John Surgeon wrote: > What is the difference between silver list and silver digest? I > just subscribed to silver list, and wonder if I should connect with > silver digest in addition or instead? The silver-digest takes all the postings made to the silver-list and packages them up as a single, multi-part message once each day, or whenever the messages add up to more than 40 kilobytes. It's most helpful in managing in-basket madness for people who get a lot of e-mail. There are no differences in *content*, however. Personally, I use the filtering feature in my mail program to sort incoming messages into different folders, so I don't get them all jumbled together. > I was thinking today about a more organized database for > alternate/complementary medical experimentation. Would a > programmed format help researchers? What do you mean, "programmed format"? > I noted Reid Smith's recommendations to use only distilled water, > and keep the electrodes away from the glass ... use of baking soda > to start things off. Is this a safe concept? Start with distilled water. Baking soda or NaCl additives have both been used. There are objections to salt, since it should form silver chloride, which is toxic. Calcium bicarb shouldn't do that. The other objection, which we haven't proved one way or the other, is that using these electrolytes to jump-start the process yields larger particle sizes than we want to have. People have used it with no apparent harm observed as of yet. > I would prefer to use only distilled water, but it might be > difficult to get the process started, and I'm not sure how long it > would take to get the desired ppm. Stenulson recommends using 1/4 > of the previous batch as a starter, but no baking soda, salt or > any other additives. That's the other school of thought. The starter idea works just fine. The first batch you make might take a half hour or more just getting started, but then it perks right along, although much slower than using electrolyte. The objection to *this* method, which we haven't proved one way or the other either, is that doing things so slowly, the silver *must* be forming other compounds, since it usually turns out a golden color, and silver "should" be clear. People have used it with no apparent harm observed as of yet. > The silvery color in the zapper runs was consistent throughout the > batch. This led me to believe that my zapper batches were producing > true colloid, but since I used well water, I'm not so certain. I'm > also not sure of the ppm of the batches. I agree with Reid. Use distilled water to start with, even if you then add electrolyte. Your well water contains a smorgasbord of salts, minerals, organic pollutants, and who-knows-what. Your water may be safe to drink, but you'd like to have better control over what you're making here! > I have been using hydrogen peroxide for several weeks, and have been > trying combinations of peroxide and silver. Would you advise adding > peroxide before starting the silver process, or after? Dr. Beck > ozonates his water during the silver process, which led me to think > that adding h2o2 would have similar results.[Most responses to this > question are negative.] We recently talked about H2O2 and ozone water. Maybe someone would like to chip in. I'm not up to speed on this. > Some thoughts on distilled water. ... The nutritionist advocates > ozone generators and distilled water, the naturopath is against *Another* spirited debate we had recently. Anybody like to make a quick recap of the two sides? I'm not sure we actually agreed on it after all... <grin> > How does Dr. Joel Wallach's colloidal mineral concept match up to > colloidal silver? To hear him tell it, Plant Derived Colloidal > Minerals Purchased Only From His Company Are The Only Hope For > Longevity. He says some very interesting things, and has > excellent credentials, but seems to really hype the whole thing to > unreal limits. Actually, I've used "plant derived colloidal minerals" from both the TJ Clark people and the Rockland Corp. They seem to work as a decent mineral supplement. Both are from the compressed plant material found in certain mineral deposits in Utah. Other products derived from various clay's or de-salinated seawater I haven't tried. The "ONE AND ONLY SOURCE" tactic is the typical hype. > Any small gas engine puts out a strong dc pulse at frequencies from > 2000 to 8000 hz. This is what the Amazon Indians are reported to > use for snakebite. I've no comment on Zapper tech. I have no experience with it. Somewhere I read an article debunking the idea of trying to zap venom with any kind of electrical discharge, but I couldn't tell you where. > Best regards, > > John Surgeon Good round of questions. Read all that you can, believe none of it until you can verify it for yourself! Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [[email protected] ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
