Mike, Thanks for the reply to my suggestion for kill studies. After I sent the message I thought that I should have mentioned something about the fact that I realize that, based on what I have read, "in-vivo" studies often give much different results, but I had already sent the message. My feeling is that if products from different manufacturers were tested together there should be some indication for how effective they would be at killing something in the body. I have read that stirring one ounce of CS in a gallon of suspect water, waiting six minutes and then stirring again will kill pathogens and make the water good to drink. I am a little suspicious of this, though I hope it is true and yet I wonder if CS from all the many commercial establishments would do the job equally as well.
Since I have your attention, Mike, I would like to personally thank you for the list, for this forum where the questions, experiences and knowledge of those of us interested in Colloidal Silver can come together. I think you're doing a great job as the moderator. Warren ---"M. G. Devour" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Warren, silver list! > > Good questions, sir! > > On 1 Apr 98 at 12:34, Warren wrote: > > > I have a CSPro Ultra machine ... But now ... the representative of > > PII ... is saying that my machine doesn't produce true colloidal > > silver. Is that true? > > Marketing Hype! Small elemental particles of silver, charged, and > staying in suspension for long periods of time certainly qualifies as > colloidal. > > We're just going to have to hammer on the fact that *all* these > machine makers are competing for your dollars and would *love* you to > believe that their machine is best and others don't work right. Every > one has a reputation to build. > > > If someone on the list has the equipment, I would like to see KILL > > STUDIES done! Studies where cultures of pathogens are exposed to > > the liquid products produced by the different companies that are > > said to produce Collidal Silver to see how quickly the pathogens > > are killed if at all. > > If you really want to know what happens, try animal studies! The > problem with broth-in-bowl type experiments is that it does not > transfer well to in-vivo activity (in the living organism). > > Often, the low concentration CS preparations, 3-5 ppm for instance, > are not all that effective stopping bacteria in a petri dish. But > they seem to work quite well in the body, as many will attest! It > might have something to do with kidneys, you know! > > Certainly the petri dish tests can be a go/no-go test just to see if > a particular preparation can be effective if it is *concentrated* > enough. Thus you might compare several different products that all > claim to be 30ppm and see if they are all equally effective. Dilute > them and try again, etc... > > Some useful info might come out of it, but you *cannot* discount a > product or process entirely on the basis of studies in culture > medium. > > I'm still searching for good studies on CS. We've come across a few > interesting tidbits, but nothing overwhelming. > > So for now we still have to get by with the dreaded anecdotal > evidence. > > Be well, > > Mike D. > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [[email protected] ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] -or- [email protected] > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
