> From:          "M. G. Devour" <[email protected]>
> To:            [email protected]
> Date:          Thu, 12 Feb 1998 08:19:12 -5
> Subject:       Re: fish patient
> Reply-to:      [email protected]
> Priority:      normal

> On 11 Feb 98 at 14:18, Bob Lee wrote:
> 
> > > bob lee wrote:
> > > > Interesting report. How do you know the CS was 24ppm ? 
> > > > How did you test it  ?
> 
> > Mike wrote:
> > > Made according to the same procedure as a batch which I did
> > > have tested [at an] environmental testing lab in my area.
> 
> > Could you give details of "same procedure as a batch..." so I can
> > correlate that to the 24ppm concentration of silver. If more
> > members will post details of their procedures and results of any
> > tests they had done we could build up a data base.
> 
> That's exactly what I hope we'll be doing here. I'm eager to try
> Gerald Perry's ppm meter so I can have a way to measure ppm on
> *lots* of samples. A FOAF has access to a scanning visible/UV
> spectrophotometer, which I think will give us lots of insights into
> the properties of our preparations. 
>
Hi Mike,
        I failed to mention that the guy who sold me the microscope also has 
a spectrophotometer of some kind, and we have done a bit of testing 
with it on the silver samples. He wrote the numbers down, but I don't 
have them with me now. I will get them later.
        This silver group is sounding more like a research group all the 
time. It's great to see so many people getting involved in the 
research of one product, for the betterment of us all!!!
        Everyone keep up the good work! I will do my best to hold up my end 
and work with the darkfield to get a handle on particle size. And  I 
am sure in the future, I will also be able to test the silver on 
bacterial cultures to find out what kind of killoff rate the 
different batches of silver have.
        Together I believe we can come up with a simple device, and a simple 
proceedure for making good CS every batch. And in a way anyone can do 
it!!!
        God Bless you all!
        Jim Einert, N.D.
 
> And we've got Jim Einert on the way to owning his own dark field
> microscope. If somebody on the list has an extra 35mm camera body,
> or we can take up a collection, he can even be equipped for
> photography. Won't *that* spruce up the web pages!!
> 
> What I'm saying is, we've got the makings of a decent research and
> development team here. Every person on the list can contribute to and
> benefit from what we, as a group, will be learning. The expenses
> would be minimal and fairly well distributed.
> 
> >  Something I`ve noticed missing from most procedures given is
> > electrical data. ... Get a multimeter ...
> 
> I've been doing exactly that, monitoring the current and periodically 
> checking the voltage.
> 
> > If you can run the same current profile with every run you will get
> > consistent pmm every batch. You will not know this if you don`t
> > keep current readings.            
> 
> That is true. And there are other things to keep constant as well,
> like electrode spacing and water temperature. But until I have a way
> to measure ppm and particle size on a *lot* of samples cheaply, I 
> won't know just how sensitive the results are to all those variables.
> 
> I'll post the procedure I used to make these batches. But you'll all
> see that it is more complicated than most people will be interested
> in duplicating. I'd still like to have a simpler recipe that was
> reliably calibrated as well. I'll be working on that soon, I hope.
> 
> Mike
> 
> [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
> [[email protected]                       ]
> [Speaking only for myself...              ]
> 
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