Hi Chris,

Here is the info I used to duplicate the CSPro electrode setup. It is
helpful to study the pictures of the CSPro machines in order to better
understand the plans. The info is from old email messages. I will simply
paste them in. I use a 12000 volt AC neon-sign transformer. The output is
unrectified. I use automotive spark-plug leads to connect the transformer to
the terminals of my "brewing vessel". Be careful of the high voltage. It is
potentially lethal.

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The CSPro setup (Bruce Marx)
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I have copied Bruce's setup exactly.  It produces clear and very stable CS.

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The way my CSPro Ultra is set up, there is a bar of silver which is
about 1.5 millimeters thick and about
10 by 2 1/2 centimeters. It is suspended by two copper wires hanging
down from a female banana plug in the plastic top of the plastic
container where the CS is produced. The silver bar hangs horizontally
from the two copper wires in the form of an inverted "v" terminating
in bent ends like the letter "j" passing through two holes drilled in
the upper edge of the silver bar. The bar hangs in the water up to a
millimeter or so from the copper wires. In other words, the vast
majority of the silver bar is hanging in the distilled water almost to
the level of the two holes which are drilled near the top of the bar.

On the plastic top to each side of the banana plug terminal for the
bar at about 3 and 1/2 centimeters is found another female banana plug
terminal. A copper wire connects these two terminals. One of the
female banana plugs is filled with plastic so nothing plugs  into it.
Suspended from each is copper wire that is formed into a one
centimeter coil (to allow adjustment) and then terminates in another
"j" . A short (about 2 1/2 centimeter) twisted piece of silver wire
with an "eye" hangs on each copper "j" wire and is set at about 1 or 2
millimeters from the surface of the distilled water (These hang on
each side of the hanging bar). When the unit is set up with the cables
from the machine plugged into the top of the water container and all
clearances are correct (silver bar in the distilled water all but a
couple of millimeters, twisted silver wires a couple of millimeters
from the top of the water) then I am ready to turn on the power. At
that time, if I have good water, the water jumps up and forms a cone
around each twisted wire. With really good water the cones are a
centimeter and a half wide and a centimeter and a half tall,
surrounding the lower part of the hanging wire. With bad water there
is only one cone with the other wire arcing or both wires just arc. Of
the three different kinds of distilled water I can get in my area,
only one is good. It is called TV (True Value) brand and on the label
it says sodium content less than .01 mg per 8 oz serving. It is
distributed by Fleming Companies, Inc, Oklahoma City, OK USA (Which I
include for those who may read this in the US.) Holes are cut in the
top of the plastic pail for ventilation

> I have a few more questions that I am hoping you can answer:
>
> What is the diameter of your twisted silver electrodes? I noticed
that my small electrodes created a nice water pyramid, but after about half
an hour the tips were barely in contact with the water. Does the same happen
in your system? I lowered mine to make light contact anyway. Does your
manual say anything about this?
>
> Also, what is the diameter and height of your vessel? And what is the
> distance of the bottom of your big electrode to the bottom of your
vessel? I'm wanting to create the same convection pattern in my setup.
>
> I notice also that when I check for the Tyndall effect while the
system is running, that the effect is very strong in the regions to the side
of the big electrode. But at the bottom of the vessel the effect is very
weak to not-noticeable. Do you find the same?
>
> I just finished my run on the new setup and I'm very pleased. I gave
>my CS a stir in the vessel and now the Tyndall effect is visible
>everywhere. This setup runs quite a bit faster and much cleaner than any
other >HVAC electrode setup that I've tried. I feel that Bruce Marx has a
fine design
>indeed.

Responding to your questions: 1. twisted electrodes are about 1 to 2
millimeters in diameter, i'd say 1.5 millimeters and about 3
centimeters long when new. After several batches they shorten in
length and eventually have to be replaced. 2. When I use good water,
that is the TV water, the cones stay around the wires during the
entire two hours. If I use water that isn't so good, one or both cones
drop away after an hour or more and then the side that drops away arcs
while the other side doesn't. The cones do drop as the process
continues, but as I said, with good water, they never completely leave
the wires during the whole two hours. The information indicates that
the wires should be within about an eighth of an inch to 3/16ths on an
inch above the water.
I think that is about 2 to 5 or 6 millimeters above the water. I have
found that 2 or 3 millimeters seems to work for me. 3. Diameter of
vessel 17.5 centimeters, height 22.5 centimeters. 4. I don't see the
Tyndall effect much at all until after 30 minutes to an hour and then
toward the top of the vessel only. I stir the water as you do when the
batch is over. I do 1/2 gallon (US) batches at a time. After every
shift I clean off the silver metal bar with a green brillo pad and I
rinse out the vessel and dry it with a clean cloth or paper towel.

Look at the pictures on the CSPro site. They are much clearer now than they
were a year ago! They will give you a pretty good idea of the setup.

I use .999 pure silver electrodes. I make them myself from silver nuggets
that come from a precious-metal dealer. I cast the silver in a mold and then
fashion the cast silver into the desired shapes. This is not easy to do if
you are not equipped and experienced in casting precious metals and using
rollers and wire pullers. Your precious-metal dealer will tell you where to
buy large silver electrodes. Be sure to specify that they be .999 pure.

>Regarding the "twisted electrode". Could you
>elaborate in greater detail on what you mean by
>twisted? Could it be a 6 cm long wire doubled over
>and twisted together along its length to form a 3
>cm long twisted wire with an "eye" for hanging on
>to the copper hook?

This is the exact way that I make my twisted electrodes. But bear in mind
that twisting it shortens it. To end with a 3cm twisted electrode, start
with a 7-8 cm piece of wire.

I think that my next pair will just be a thicker single wire electrode the
same thickness as the twisted one, with an eye bent on the top. I can't see
that this won't work. I don't think that there is any special property to
the "twist".

I have a suspicion that Bruce uses the materials he can get. He does not
make his own electrodes from scratch. Maybe he can't source thicker silver
wire, so he twists some thinner wire to get the thickness right.

Hope this helps. These instructions worked fine for me.

Christian


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