Hi Wayne,
I am remembering when the federal govt commissioned a study to figure
out according to modern research, just what kind of diet was
healthiest. This is the study that resulted in the bastardized food
pyramid. I got the updates in Science News, which I subscribed to for
many years, and which reports on all fields of science. That was in the
70's.
The preliminary report issued stated that a vegetarian diet was looking
like the best bet- and I thought, gee, what are the dairy and meat
industries going to say about this? Sure enough, they had a tizzy fit.
The final report, which I read the abstract on, but don't remember now,
was something like small amounts of animal protein was not too bad, but
eating lots of fruits and veges and nuts was really good, with some
whole grains.
They put out a graph along with the report, a regular pie chart, which
showed the animal protein part of it to be quite small, like a inty
slice of pie. Of course, the giant industries could not put up with
that, so they lobbied relentlessly to get the graphic changed, and
eventually resulted in the food pyramid- bearing little relation to the
original report, some, but with way more carbs. Typical of the gov't,
in my opinion. Politics trumped the science, as is sometimes the case.
Dr Spock was on this panel, and this is how he came to believe that a
vegetarian diet was the healthiest, and started promoting it.
Another researcher decided to do a study comparing the GI tracts of
meat eating animals and vegetarian animals. After doing the lab work,
he compared the findings to humans, and discovered that our GI tract
resembles vegetarian animals. He was astonished, as he had assumed that
the study would confirm we should all be eating meat, since he was a
meat eater and believed in it. He decided his research was valid and
became a vegetarian. I forget his name, he was at one of the big name
U's in the northeast. This was maybe in the early 80s.
As far as saturated fat goes, coconut oil is solid at room temp, as is
palm oil, and that is an easy way to tell how saturated a fat is. There
probably are other tropical oils that are saturated too. That is one of
the reasons some people don't eat the tropical oil, as it may be bad
for them if they are avoiding saturated fat. The heating process that
hydrogenates oil makes it saturated too, if I recall rightly.
Amino acids: it is not necessary to combine them in the same meal,
eating them within a few days of each other can be enough. Most of the
traditional indigenous diets have incorporated in them a good mix of
amino acids that are enough to sustain good health and growth, even in
periods where little meat is available. The traditional Indian diet
includes some milk and butter as animal fat and protein. The Buddist
vegetarians (I have heard) eat maybe dozens of different kinds of
mushrooms and obscure greens, along with other things found in the
natural state. I assume this is to keep up good health without any
animal products.
I think the dairy industry has really done a disservice to us in making
the milk nearly undrinkable- most of the people I know here who are
lacto veg either go with organic or do without mostly- the product has
changed so much it doesn't resemble the old fashioned milk my mom got
when she was a girl- the cow out back, taken care of lovingly, and
spending the day eating grass.
Kathryn
On May 2, 2007, at 12:26 PM, CWFugitt wrote:
Morning Faith,
there are many things that are worse than death............and
being a vegetarian is one of them. <<
I do not understand this dreary remark. Please explain?
I can't explain that statement, but been wanting to state my ideas.
Lots of things are problems with being a vegetarian,
Food supply
Variety of Food
Quality of food
Cost of food, if one can find it.
I understand it is harder on the environment than not being a
non vegetarian. Wild animals are very efficient at harvesting their
food supply and require no gas and oil for energy.
Plus........ I have said for many years that few people are
knowledgeable enough to be a vegetarian.
Most have no idea of the protein, fat, carb ratio that they should
target. Back in the 50's the ratio was stated to be
40 % fat
40 % protein
20 % carbs
I realize that would change somewhat for a pure vegetarian.
A huge variety of seeds and nuts can provide enough fats.
Some research indicates we need some saturated fat. Not sure how they
would get this.
I realize there has been lots of different ideas on protein
requirement. The average height of the adult male and life expectancy
is in proportion to the number of grams consumed per day. Too much
is bad also.
One great doctor says, to live longer, eat less protein.
He does not say eat no protein.
Finally comes the issue of complete and incomplete proteins.
Amino acids are hard to balance for a vegetarian.
The two classes, Essential and Non-Essential are highly misleading.
They are all essential.
The ones classified as non essential are to be made by the body.
Many people have problems whereas they cannot make the non essential
amino acids, so .......... they become essential for the diet.
Wild animals eat 100 or more plants per day and stay on a food plot an
average of 20 minutes. If the missing amino acids in one food are not
found in another food within 30 minutes, they will not complement each
other to produce a complete protein.
Simply stated, this is all too complicated for the average human to
cope with. He best eat some meat, eggs, and milk to keep from
overloading his mind and blowing a fuse.
Yes, I eat little meat, small servings of 1 to 3 ounces at most.
I do take amino acid supplements, eat a few eggs, and some milk.
Heck, I did not mention B-12 but everyone knows about that.
I welcome anyone to disagree with me or disprove anything I said
because it is mostly my opinion.
Some of if is based on facts. <grin>
All the above is a work load that is hard to shoulder.
If we get into Biological Transmutation, the whole ball game changes.
Wayne
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