Hi Marshall, and all,

Do you know if the scanning photospectrometer  will read down to about 1 
nm?   Is there a used market for the things, and about how much do they 
cost?  This sounds like a possible low-cost alternative to electron 
microscopy for verifying production particle size.

Thanks,
James Osbourne, Holmes

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-----Original Message-----
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Tuesday, July 06, 1999 12:45 PM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        Re: CS> Boiling water

Reid Smith wrote:

> >Charles Marcus wrote:
> >Until someone gives (a) specific reason(s) for it being
> >Hot means higher energy.  Higher energy means more Browning movement. 
 More
> >Browning movement means higher likelyhood of overcoming the mutual 
repulsion
> >of the charge between particles. When particles bang together the 
aggregate,
> >thus producing bigger particles.
> >This would likely produce a gold colored colloid instead of a clear 
colloid,
> >which would confirm that the particles are larger.  Smaller is better.
> >Marshall
>
>    Where did you get the idea that a gold colored CS is a sign of
> larger particals? I find that VERY hard to believe. The reason I say
> that is I made CS for some time and never once got a gold color until
> I changed the type of distilled water that I was using. EVERY thing
> was exactly the same except the water.

It is not an idea, it is a well known fact.  Check any textbook on 
colloidal
chemistry.  I have given this information several times before on this 
list.
This is documented in many scientific journals and papers.  AT
http://silver-lightning.com/research2.html we have the following paragraph:

                             The absorption band of silver colloids 
increases in
wavelength as the size of the particles
                             increase. This allows a qualitative 
measurement on
the particle sizes in a colloid by use of
                             a scanning photospectrometer. Ionic silver has 
an
absorption band in the UV range and
                             thus is virtually clear. As more atoms 
aggregate
into a particle, the absorption band
                             moves from the UV into the violet, blue, 
green,
yellow, orange and red. Since, the color of
                             a substance is the complement of the color 
absorbed
colloidal silver will go from clear to
                             very light yellow, gold, orange, red, blue and
green. (Collloidal Chemistry p 65). Colloids that contain a
                             broad range of sizes can absorb wavelengths 
across
the spectrum resulting in brown and
                             black. It is generally accepted that only 
clear to
light gold silver colloids have particle
                             sizes small enough to be effective, and to be 
able
to reach the blood stream.

This is a known fact, not a theory.  I can give you references to at least 
a
dozen other papers that verify this, if I want to go dig them out.

As far as  changing the water, this is VERY believable.  Water with more
dissolved salts in it produces bigger particles, and thus will give a gold 
color.

Marshall


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