Hi folks,

Continuing the narrative...

Charles wrote:
> YOU are the one who CHOSE to take my simple observation it the 
> wrong way. People tend to do that when confronted with a reality that
> they are trying to hide from.

Mary Ann responded:
> **** And YOU are the one who CHOSE to butt into a conversation I was
> having with someone else, and spew your negative attitude and rudeness
> into something that had nothing to do with you.  Most people tend not
> to do that, Simon.  The fact that you do makes your anti-social nature
> very evident.  The *reality* that you refer to is one of your own
> making.  I'm not hiding from anything -- you included. 

Charles further retorts:
> All I did was provide a link to what you were looking for... and made a
> casual reference to your not having looked very hard... 

As long as we're interpreting each others' attitudes, let me try:

"In every online forum I've ever joined, people take needless offense 
when I point out their inadequacies. I only try to help them and they 
get mad at me. They're all just insane..."

Part of that reality you can't hide from, Charles, is that people do 
take offense when you're rude to them. And, guess what? *THEY* decide 
what is rude and what isn't, not you! It's usually considered a good 
idea to make some effort to figure out what's likely to piss people off 
and then *not* do it. Then you don't end up being banned from group 
after group after group for the same hopeless, pointless behaviors.

If it was just me, I could get along with you okay, ignore your 
irascibility and appreciate the philosophical fine points of your 
arguments, maybe even join them sometimes -- but this forum *hopefully* 
will attract new people and attempt to meet *their* needs as well. I 
cannot expect them to be willing to run the gauntlet of your criticism 
on the way to getting help.

Defend yourself all you want, sir, the results speak far more 
eloquently. You make people mad at you all the time, and that won't 
change until you change your behavior.

I think you need to seriously reconsider whether your participation in 
the Silver List is appropriate. It does not seem like you're 
comfortable with what it demands.

Having said all that, it is just as important for every one of you to 
learn to be thick-skinned enough that something like Charle's 
gracelessness does *not* defeat you or interfere with your use of 
online resources. There will *ALWAYS* be rude or thoughtless people in 
any but the most strictly controlled online environment. You should 
routinely expect to have to ignore more nonsense than you'd ever be 
willing to tolerate in person.

Most of you already do that, of course, but we've all seen people get 
chased off by the first unthinking remark somebody throws their way and 
lose any chance they might have had of getting help from a forum. They 
weren't prepared for the coarseness of the behavior and reacted as if 
they were slapped in the face, instead of ignoring it for the nonsense 
that it is.

If lives and people's health didn't depend on these situations, 
sometimes, I wouldn't care so much.

So, Mary Ann, I hope you feel you've explained yourself thoroughly 
enough? I can now understand perfectly why your initial search effort 
didn't yield much of anything useful. Really! Can you now restrain 
yourself from further demonstrations, please? <smile>

Thank you, everyone, for your patience.

Be well,

Mike Devour
silver-list owner

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
[[email protected]                        ]
[Speaking only for myself...               ]


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