Interesting. So the bird flu kills due to enhanced inflammatory
response? I thought it was immune system overdrive. But perhaps I
repeat myself.
I remember in my previous readings about the polio vac- the Sauk vac is
a killed vac, while the Sabin is live. The Sabin vac causes x # cases
of polio per thousand uses, the Sauk vac causes zero. IMHO, it is
unconscienable to submit innocent children to unnecessary suffering. I
understand the reasoning behind the decision, but I seriously disagree
with it. There are too many problems with live viruses, but the public
health people do not agree with me. They think more about collateral
damage being the cost of victory, they think it is the greatest good
for the greatest number, I guess.
And I don't think *anyone* has the right to screw up my genes without
my knowledge and consent. But it is being done, on purpose anyway.
Sometimes I wonder why I bother voting, except maybe to be heard from.
kathryn
On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
A dead virus should be nothing more than a chemical structure.
In some cases a dead virus may be sufficient to trigger an immune
system response that's sufficient to trigger antibody production
without going into inflammation.
What sort of response depends on what the body needs to do to produce
a given antibody to a particular class of virus.
Every virus is different and the immune system is picky, that's what
makes them so hard to defeat.
An effective vaccine has to trigger the immune system into producing
antibodies one way or another.
Usually a weakened or similar but *relatively* harmless live virus
is used to do that job.
If a dead one will do it, a dead one is used.
A multi purpose vaccine may have a mix of several live and dead
strains.
Part of that immune system response can be inflammation.
If the genetics are susceptible to inflammation and the body requires
inflammation to get the job done, the immune system triggered can be a
big problem, no matter what triggers it.
It's possible that genetic screening can help prevent vaccine damage,
[Genetic screening is a very new field of endeavor] however...even
though the odds of catching a destructive virus may be reduced with
care and the default of everyone else being vaccinated, catching that
virus will always be a possibility, with the same, or worse,
consequences.
Worse, because the disease being prevented by a moderate invasion from
a vaccine will likely inflame far more and have other destructive
possibilities than the weakened or "relatively" harmless similar virus
has.
Some of those suckers can permanently damage the heart valves, ear
drums, optic nerves and other delicate things.
Generally speaking, it's not the virus that kills people, it's an
over response to it that does.
For instance: The immune system response to H5N1 bird flu is nearly
100% deadly if steps aren't taken to prevent the body from drowning in
its own defenses...the virus itself, isn't and does very little actual
damage
In effect, the body thinks it needs a battle axe to kill a mosquito
and that over reaction is part of the common genetic pool.
With Autism, there's an uncommon genetic pool at work doing something
similar.
If genetic screening comes into play, such things could be bred out of
the population by selective reproductive sterilization..but that's
playing God..isn't it? Everyone has a God given right to screw up
everyones genes even when they know they might very likely do so.
[wink]
PS Some people never get a cavity and that is a genetic trait as
well. [The fat balding people in my family have perfect teeth while
the hairy skinny ones are a dentists new Porshe ]
Shoot, can't freekin win...but at least I can eat all the tooth rot
I want and not get big as a house while they can eat all the sweet
house building bricks they want and not rot teeth.
Actually, none of us had sweets when we were kids...didn't matter.
Ode
At 12:47 PM 6/12/2008 -0500, you wrote:
Yes. I have read those recent studies too, that are showing it is not
the mercury. Not that mercury is a good idea to use either, but I did
not see the one about the inflammation. So if it is inflammation,
why does a killed viurs vaccine not cause the same problems? My son
had a severe reaction to the pertussis vac, and it was a live virus
vac. The killed vac did not cause that reaction, and the medical
studies backed that statement up. oh well...
kathryn
On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:01 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
As with eliminating mercury from Vaccines after proving that it's
not the "mercury" that causes Autism, a change does not have to be
based on fact to develop public pressure that the FDA knuckles under
to.
Ie: Changing a policy, does not prove that anyone was lying.
It means that the FDA sees itself [true or not] to be a public
servant, subject to the public will...valid, or not...and will
knuckle under to public pressure when an alternative is adequately
functional.
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