Okay, am re-sending each one split into two smaller ones.  Rowena.

From:   Brooks   Bradley
Subject:   Re:   CS>PROTEIN   DIETS-   THE   GOOD   AND   THE   BAD   PRESS
   Dear   Dean,
   Our   research   DOES   NOT   bear   out   the   efficacy   of   your 
Referenced researcher's   claims.    Our   research   (with   Type   II 
diabetes)   clearly   supports the   increased   use   of   SATURATED 
fats,   plus   copious   high-quality
protein   ..as   yielding   the   superior   nutritional/health    results. 
At least   that   has   been   our   experience.    It   appears   obvious, 
to   us,   that   Dr. Atkins   merely   modified   Banting's   earlier 
knowledge   relating   to   high   protein
diets.        Sincerely,    Brooks   Bradley.

Dean   Miller   wrote:
  DIETARY   FAT   INTAKE   RISK   FACTOR   FOR   DIABETES   - It's   the 
fat   dummy,   not   the   sugar,   that   increases   our   risk   for 
diabetes,   according   to   a   study   reported   in   Diabetes   Care. 
Too   much animal   fat, defined   as   more   than   34%   total   fats 
with   15%  animal, significantly   raised   fasting   glucose   levels   in 
sedentary   people.   In   my books, I  strongly   urge   you   to   stick 
to   no   more   than   25%   fat   with less   than   10%   saturated 
fat,   in   order   to   modify   your   hormonal response. Diabetes   Care 
2003;26:302-307
 The   above   study   contradicts   lots   of   other   research.    I'd 
double   check it.   --   Dean   --   from   (almost)   Des   Moines
               Fri,   11   Apr   2003
From:   Brooks   Bradley
       Dear   Robb,
    At   the   MSM   levels   you   are   taking,   surges   in 
detoxification   are   quite   likely.    We   experienced   very   similar 
reactions   among our   volunteer   populations   during   our   rather 
extensive   evaluations   of   MSM ingestion   ...several   years   ago.
     Do   remember,   Dr.   Stanley   Jacob   and   associates   documented 
the   "flushing"   character   of   MSM   ..many   years   ago.    If   you 
are   unfamiliar with   this   characteristic   .try   to   imagine   the 
walls   of   a   cell   as   being covered   by   a   series   of 
microscopic   "venetian   blinds"   (e.g.   the   cell   pores).. The 
"effective"   physcial   opening   of   these   pores   is   what   controls 
the   amount   of fluid   (water-like   substances)   that   are   allowed 
to   pass   in   or   out   of   the   cell. It   is   quite   possible 
for   elements   other   than   just   the   "original"   physical   size of 
these   openings   .to   affect   the   "effective"   size   presenting. 
e.g. material   obstruction/build-up/deposition    of   foreign   materials, 
edema-like occurances,   biological   reactions,   etc.,   are   also 
possibilities.       Without belaboring   the   possible   causes,   the 
important   consideration   becomes   not   how   to get   water   INTO 
the   cell,   but   how   to   get   the   toxin-like   materials   OUT. 
The openings   in   the   cell   wall   may   be   quite   large   enough 
for   the   water   to   go   in   and out   but   NOT   sufficiently   so 
to   allow   the   toxin-bearing   substances   to   exit. While   MSM   is 
not   a   capable   entrainment/transport   medium,   it   is   a   splendid 
"self-oriented"   liquid   penetrant   (similar   to   a   super-lubricant/ 
penetrant   in physics)   and   as   such   easily   passes   INTO   and 
through   even   highly-occluded   cell pores.    MSM   does   possess   the 
ability   to   dilute   parent   substances   sometimes in   ways   which 
afford   solid-like   masses   to   become   more   gelatinous   in 
nature-----or   even   to   break-up   into   smaller   constituent 
particles/geometries.
This   process   greatly   enhances   the   probability   that   in-dwelling 
toxin-like substances   may   be   enabled   to   PASS-OUT   of   their 
former   prison   within   the   cell proper.    Thus,   a   circumstance 
equivalent   to   actually   opening   the   microscopic "venetian   blinds" 
substantially   ..may   manifest.    Additionally,   as   the process 
continues,   evidence   has   presented   that   the   "actual"   physical 
cell-wall pore   openings   experience   a   true 
enlargement-----sometimes   through   an   effective removal   of   existing 
material   obstruction   .and   sometimes   through   a
restoration   of   their   effective   flexibility.    When   such   an 
effect   presents,   it usually   does   so   in   an   exponential   and 
sudden   manner.
   Do   understand   this   diatribe   is   an   analogous-type 
explanation....and   not   a   scientific   treatise   of   exactitude; 
but,   hopefully, will   serve   to   offer   a   possible   "symbolic" 
explanation   of   the   cause   of   your Herxheimer-like   presentation. 
Sincerely,    Brooks   Bradley.

Robb   Allen   wrote:
>   Hi   everybody   ....I'm   not   allergic   to   anything   ...I   get 
> my   MSM   from    MSM-MSM.com   .so    I   think   its   probably   good 
> ....?       I've   been   taking   about   10   grams   a   day    .makes 
> me   feel    "icky"   .like   I'm >   releasing   a   bunch   of   toxins 
> or   something   ....can't   explain   it    .Robb
>
>   >   Do   you   have   any   alergies?
>   >   And   yes,   they   sometimes   combine   MSM   with   DMSO   so 
> might >   >   be   the   DMSO   that   has   the   bad   effect.
>   >   Maia
   Roger   Barker
  Every   Time   I   start   taking   msm   in   doses   for   pain  relief 
...I   start   feeling bad   ..{headache   ect}   ..what   does   this >   > 
 >   mean?    should   I  stop?   or   continue?   ..Robb
  Sun   Apr   13   09:13:23   2003
Date:   Sat,   12   Apr   2003   22:18:24   -0500
From:   Brooks   Bradley       Dear   Dean,
    I   did   not   (have   never   posted)   post   any   of   the 
results of   the   research   I   referenced   in   my   post   to   Robb. 
The   actual   investigations   were conducted   as   an   ancillary 
project   to   a   more   intensive   one   relating   to   chronic 
arthritis   presentations.    No   stand-alone   data   briefs   were   ever 
executed   for   a "written   record"   data   archive.
    Isolating   and   reviewing   the   specific   work   of   the principal 
investigator   is   a   task   presently   beyond   my   available 
time/energy spectrum.    While   interesting   in   nature,   I   do   not 
believe   the   revelations   would justify   the   effort.
I   apologize;    were   I   younger,   or   had   more   uncommitted 
staff   at   present,   I   would   be quite   amenable   to   underwriting 
a   resurrection   of   the   data   and   a   production   of    a
descriptive   abstract.    Sincerely,    Brooks.

Dean   Miller   wrote:
>   Hi   Brooks,
  wrote:   Dear   Robb,
At   the   MSM   levels   you   are   taking,   surges   in > 
 >detoxification   are   quite   likely.    We   experienced   very   similar 
reactions   among
>   >our   volunteer   populations   during   our   rather   extensive 
> evaluations   of   MSM
>   >ingestion   ...several   years   ago.
> >   I   must   have   missed   a   report   of   your   evaluation   if 
> > it   was   on   the   silver
>   list.    I've   just   searched   the   archives   and   can't   seem 
> to   find   anything >   but   brief   comments   about   parts   of   the 
> research. >   Is   there   any   place   on   the   'net   that   provides 
> a   report   on   what   your >   group   has   discovered?
>>   Thanks,
>>   --   Dean   --   from   (almost)   Des   Moines   --   KB0ZDF


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