Dee To a large extent I am like Wayne. I just can't make CS without a meter to measure voltage and current. However, unlike Wane I would supplement my DIY rig with a commercial unit. There are times when I would like the "Fire and Forget" operation of a commercial unit. From what I have read on the manufactures web sites and comments from users in this forum I think they do a really good job. But for people like Wayne and myself they don't provide all the flexibility and onitoring visibility we like. (I would probably modify it to let me measure current flow though) The more you learn about making CS the more you see the tradeoffs you make when you do things to vary brew time or ppm strength. And the tradeoffs don't always have a good/bad threshold but are better/not better results and so the tradeoffs you make are personal decisions you make based on what you know (or what you think you know) and what end result you desire. So we can't give you a definitve answer to seeming simple questions that are asked here. I don't think you are making a mistake by moving the electrodes to 1.5" separaton but doing so can affect the automatic measurements your unit makes. The unit is calibrated with a specific electrode spacing and changing the spacing can affect the automatic measurements. Also, if you want to speed up the process but maintain the low parti le size your unit usually generates, I would start by doing what you have done to get a measurement of the time a brew takes and then the next time I did a brew I would move the electrodes to their normal spacing for the completion of the generation. This will sacfice a little time savings though. Again it is a tradeoff based on what I would want. But what you have done is good. Imight think that what I would is better by enough to make it worth the effort? Is it really? Every person might have a different opinion on that. So often we try to lhelp others understant the issues and trade offs so they can decide what is the best alternative for them. I know this was a little long but I hope it helps answer you concern. - Steve N
----- Original Message ----- From: Dee <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri Aug 29 03:56:36 2008 Subject: Re: CS>brewing question - and Rule of Thumb for CS Concentration but how do you do that Steve? My normal batch takes about eight hours to make which is using a silverpuppy and a quart size container. My DW is really pure (000) on the TDS meter. The finished article measures either 7 or 8 on the TDS meter so I thought this was approximately 14 to 16ppm. I just thought to speed it up a bit - to move the electrodes slighter closer together would cut down the time a bit. I did this and it cut nearly two hours off the making time, but the TDS then measured 5. This I took to mean that the ppm was approximately 10ppm which would be ideal. It also didn't taste as strong either, which was also better. Do you think I am making a mistake by doing this? or should I just carry on with the long brewing time? I don't want to compromise the efficacy of the CS by messing with it, but it does seem an awful long time. dee PS sorry if I haven't understood your very detailed analysis, but I'm afraid I need a lay persons version - not being very up on the science of it all. Norton, Steve wrote: > > I tried to post this earlier with embedded figures but I guess that > failed. Here it is without embedded figures. > > > Personally, I intentionally try to generate CS with a mix of both > large and small particles with the bulk being as small as reasonably > possible. Just my opinion. > > Steve N > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>

