You wrote:

"There are some mind altering drugs to erase hardwires, making it easier
to 
re- wire.  Ibogain, MDA, LSD...[with hypnosis? ]
DMT lasts just a little longer than a shrink session."

Salvia Divinorum (Diviner's Sage).  It is still legal.

Dan



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 7:25 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CS>[FW]Promising Study on Obesity
> 
> 
> 
>    Fasting throws your metabolism into survival mode...and... 
> "absence makes the heart grow fondue"
> If fuel in is less than energy out, the weight has to come 
> off and muscle developed to carry fat around stays.
>   Many years picking it up, it's going to take a while to 
> drop it off..and a fundamental change of mind about what food 
> is for both takes and keeps it off.
> 
> If your life is active in motion and such that, being an 
> inconvenience, you
> *forget* to eat or delay it in favor of activity, you will not be fat.
> 
> 
> For grins and giggles, take note of who skinny and fat people 
> generally 
> choose to hang out with.  I think you'll find that  Like 
> interest fortifies 
> like activity and mindset. [Feedback]
>   Might want to find new friends in a transitional group.
> 
> Sitting around won't find  friends who are out walking 
> around. [Doesn't 
> matter "why" they are walking around, everyone has their own 
> reason for a 
> same activity. it's the "doing" that brings them together and 
> validates the 
> doing with feedback. ]
> 
>   A change in mind makes the change in body...otherwise it's 
> a never ending 
> battle.
> If you aren't fighting, you can't lose.
> 
> It's tough to be happy when at war with oneself.
>   Bottom line, people want to be happy even if it kills em 
> and they tend to 
> not focus on physical cause, only the emotional effect.
>   Gotta have a different set of reasons and the results of 
> having them come 
> on their own.
>    Hypnosis may be good. [ Every time I hear a noise or a 
> certain word 
> spoken, that means I just had dinner and I can forget about 
> being hungry. 
> Sub conscious "Triggers"  ]
> 
> Why do I have this sudden urge to walk around the block?
> 
> 
> There are some mind altering drugs to erase hardwires, making 
> it easier to 
> re- wire.  Ibogain, MDA, LSD...[with hypnosis? ]
>   DMT lasts just a little longer than a shrink session.
> 
> A church service uses the fundamentals of mind control programming, a 
> progression of sounds, societal 'compliances'  and induced 
> mental states 
> that make one mentally pliable and "entranced".
> It might be possible to use those elements for your own 
> purposes...go in 
> there with your own sermon to read over and over. As the 
> preacher drones 
> subliminal messages into your head, ignore him and "insert 
> here"  [ an MP3 
> player loaded with a subliminal weight loss program theme? 
> ]...and/or ask 
> the preacher to include you as a "special"
>   Mind control programming technology sets you up to forget 
> who you think 
> you are.
> 
> Walk out the door at the end and "kill" a piece of pie with a 
> stick [ a bad 
> deed for the good of all mankind]..****A Manchurian 
> Candidate**** skips 
> lunch to save the world from evil French Fried Dic-taters and takes a 
> [several mile long?]  "Victory walk" home.
>   The Pillsbury Michelin man revenge squad hiding under the 
> spare tire will 
> be looking for you in the car...don't be there.
> ..and when you get home, have the family celebrate your 
> escape and survival 
> with cheers.  [but not fried chicken]  YOU MADE IT!    YAYYYYY!
> ..might even sneak into the house with a furtive glance 
> behind you.  A 
> little pretend drama.
> 
> Effort applied with cause and a reward to validate the 
> effort. [feedback loop ]
> 
>   Silly?  Yup.  The same sort of silly *being* used can be 
> *re-used*.  It's 
> all symbolic and a joke isn't a threat to be defended against.
>   Try this too.
>   As you walk home, each step say out loud  "Ho!, then HA!, 
> then Hee!"  Ho, 
> hee, ha, hee, ho, ha , hee ....all the way home.  You don't 
> have to mean 
> it, it will mean itself.
>   You will be thinking to yourself:  You can't be serious!  
> THAT is utterly 
> idiotic.  [Humm..yes, it is..and "it" has not been defined 
> 'cause "it" 
> ain't nuthin-a-tall that makes any sense. "It" is undefinable. ]
> Maybe even staple little silly symbolic signs on trees to 
> look at along the 
> way..just a little bit hidden so you actually have to seek 
> them out, like 
> scrawny chickens pulling elephants in little red wagons 
> cartoons..a game to 
> play on the way.
> 
>   As YOU do it, you will attract others to do it with.
>   Make teams to hide cartoons from each other as you chant Ho, Hee, 
> Ha....have some *stupid* fun.
> [ I guarantee it will be the most hilarious thing you ever did. ]
> 
>   Laughter IS the best medicine.
> If you can be silly, it can be a lot of fun...."silly math" 
> to unbalance 
> mental equations being taken seriously...without...thinking  "those" 
> equations, thus not defending ANY equations.
> 
> ..change mind behind back, that's how it happens anyhow. Both 
> what's in 
> there now and whatever goes in there forever more, gets in on 
> the blind 
> side to gate the vision.
>   Sneak up behind ego and it thinks it thought of it ....and 
> never thought 
> anything else.
> 
> 
>   EGO takes itself seriously, it doesn't HAVE a silly 
> side...it can be 
> fooled...always is.
> And YOU can fool it even while knowing that you are.
>   Every time you think "This is stupid" and you still do it, you are 
> re-programming yourself behind your own back without being 
> threatened. [ 
> Isn't that how you got fat? ]
>   No threat, no defense possible, no fight needed.
>   Every time to think "This can't work" and you still do 
> it....it WILL 
> work..for that very reason.    It cannot be defended against 
> if it can't 
> work.  There's nothing there to fight by your own logic.
> 
> Remember:  "I can't fool myself."  [That makes it a lot 
> easier to do on the 
> flimsiest of evidence..the sillier the better because EGO 
> will not look at 
> silly as serious, but it can't avoid looking and sorting.   
> Whatever it 
> rejects goes sub conscious where it can't be fought...tossed into the 
> basement where the foundation is. ]
> 
>   A "diet" is a fight that must be forever fought...but it 
> fights what you 
> hid and can't find to fight.
>   You DO know how to hide things. You know exactly where not 
> to look, so 
> don't bother trying.
> Hide something else, the same way...by denying that you did. 
> [then denying 
> that you denied it ]
>   That means:  I did that so I didn't do that because I couldn't have.
> 
>   When you look at an old photo and can't believe that was 
> you..... you did 
> it in the proper deniable fashion.
> 
>   The NEW you.... is just as effortless as the old. [and a 
> lot more fun]
> 
> Get moving...and...GET SILLY.
>   The "problem" is..you ARE "making" sense.  So, DO that to  
> STOP THAT 
> ...with nonsense.
>   The rule of displacement: Nonsense takes up just as much 
> room as the 
> sense you make.
> If the sense isn't useful, the nonsense does that job just as 
> well and 
> there's no reason to not displace the sense.
> Silly is levity and has no gravity..it can float away 
> effortlessly as *new* 
> sense filters in.
> 
>   No reason at all can be the best reason there is...even 
> better than any 
> reason you can possibly dream up.
> It's where miracles come from.
> 
>   Neither miracles, nor laughter, needs a reason.
> 
>   Laughter alters your body chemistry too.
>   Could make those vitamins absorb better, giving the 
> physical a path via 
> the psychological, each feed back looping the other to be 
> validated in 
> chemistry.
>   The brain controls chemistry, the mind controls the brain, 
> the mind isn't 
> IN the brain...but it can come to "believe" it is and get 
> trapped in a self 
> validating feedback loop.
> 
> 
> 
> Ode
> 
> 
> At 09:25 AM 9/27/2008 -0500, you wrote:
> >May I please ask you for some advice for a young lady who 
> needs to lose 
> >100 pounds? She even fasted aprx. 18 days to no avail. There 
> is no money 
> >to buy anything at this time. Perhaps you can refer us to 
> some articles to 
> >offer advice? Would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >Thank you,
> >Leslie
> > >
> > > From: "Brooks Bradley" <[email protected]>
> > > Date: 2008/09/25 Thu PM 07:08:42 CDT
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: CS>[FW]Promising Study on Obesity
> > >
> > >
> >If list members have, already, received this I do humbly apologize. 
> >However, I sent this posting about 1:00 pm today and have 
> failed to see it 
> >appear on the list. While I do not suffer ego 
> self-indulgences it is with 
> >some effort that I compose postings these days. If anyone 
> received my 
> >earlier posting...or this one, a one-liner confirming such would be 
> >appreciated.
> >Sincerely, Brooks Bradley
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >Subject : [FW]Promising Study on Obesity
> >
> >Date : Thu, 25 Sep 2008 19:43:46 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> > From : "Brooks Bradley" <[email protected]>
> >
> >To : <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >---------[ Received Mail Content ]----------
> >
> >
> >Subject : Promising Study on Obesity
> >
> >
> >Date : Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:04:28 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >
> > From : "Brooks Bradley" <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >To : <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Recently, prompted by information encountered in Dr. Sharon Moalem's 
> >splendid book
> >
> >
> >entitled "Survival of the Sickest" (he covers everything from the 
> >evolution of diabetes, to the bubonic plague), we prosecuted a 
> >limited....but revealing, investigation relating to obesity 
> in children. 
> >Dr. Moalem's premise revolved around data originating from 
> Duke University 
> >scientists. What they had discovered was, to us....seminal 
> in nature----an 
> >occurrence both fascinating and revealing-----relating to 
> the effects of 
> >the DIET and SUPPLEMENTATION, by the prospective mother both 
> before and 
> >during the earliest stages of pregnancy. To wit: It was 
> discovered that a 
> >group of mice, "specifically bred to carry a gene called 
> AGOUTI, which 
> >gives them their characteristic pale coat and tendency toward 
> >obesity"----reliably yielded off-spring
> >
> >
> >which were FAT AND YELLOW. The Duke scientists separated a 
> population of, 
> >female Agouti mice into two groups---one control and one 
> MODIFIED (but 
> >only to the extent of the diet. The Controls were fed a normal 
> >diet----they yielded the expected FAT YELLOW babies. The other group 
> >received similar prenatal care...with one exception---they 
> were given 
> >vitamin supplements (actually, a combination of compounds 
> especially rich 
> >in B12, folic acid, betaine and choline).
> >
> >
> >The results were, in short----STARTLING. Somehow, the Agouti 
> gene had been 
> >TURNED OFF....the fat yellow mice had produced the THIN 
> BROWN MICE. The 
> >Agouti gene in the "thin brown mice" was just were it was 
> supposed to 
> >be....but had, somehow been TURNED OFF..... CHEMICALS HAD 
> ATTACHED TO THE 
> >GENE AND SUPPRESSED ITS INSTRUCTIONS. This process is called 
> methylation.
> >
> >
> >Our experiments tended to CONFIRM the results obtained by the Duke 
> >University research team. These results have us VERY 
> excited, because they 
> >promise to offer excellent support to a means of effecting 
> conditions 
> >enabling direct MODIFICATION of unwanted genetic instructions----in 
> >certain conditions. These studies are based upon a research 
> field known as 
> >Epigenetics.
> >
> >
> >I will not bore you with further diatribe on this matter. 
> However, we feel 
> >that
> >
> >
> >this tends to confirm the POWERFUL influence of prenatal 
> nutrition on the 
> >health parameters of newborns.....and indications that such 
> continues on 
> >into their later lives.
> >
> >
> >I would be remiss if I did not encourage the more interested of list 
> >members, to obtain a copy of Dr. Moalem's book------I 
> guarantee it to be 
> >one of the MOST interesting and
> >
> >
> >informative you will ever read.
> >
> >
> >Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
> >
> >
> >p.s. We have a great interest in the possible effects of 
> "adult stem cell 
> >protocol" on currently-expressing cases of morbid obesity 
> (together with 
> >many other serious insults, such as
> >
> >
> >coronary heart disease/damage).....in adults of all ages. 
> Adult stem cell 
> >protocols do not have ANY of the objectionable moral 
> arguments put forward 
> >against the use of fetal cell extraction.....additionally, 
> all stem cells 
> >are derived from the host....and therefore, do not present 
> ANY form of 
> >rejection considerations. Note: Adult stem cell protocols ARE NOT, 
> >presently, legal in the U.S......except in veterinary 
> medicine (the horses 
> >and other large animals are benefiting in astounding ways 
> from this new 
> >science. FDA says HUMANS will have to wait until some future era in 
> >earth's history. Meanwhile, if someone has a dear family member
> >
> >
> >(and about 40k to 50k dollars) there are excellent clinics in 
> >Thailand---and other countries---which are achieving 
> powerful results 
> >(often---IN DAYS)......among persons diagnosed as terminally 
> hopeless for 
> >addressing cardio-vascular damage. I AM NOT putting forward 
> >recommendations of any type.....for direct treatment. My 
> recommendations 
> >are for persons involved in Experimental Medical Research, only.
> >
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