Just a further note on this if you don't mind Ode, on closer inspection it
seems that the coating on the glass mostly appears on the glass *above* the
liquid level.
I observe a number of bubbles forming all around the inside of the glass
above the liquid level
for a time after production, (which I have put down to *something* still
going on for a
period of time of stabilization), so it looks to me like this plateout or
discolouration of the glass
above the level of the solution is a residue left after the bubbles have
'evaporated' for the want of a better word? Just curious cos the glass
seems to be
crystal clear below the liquid level. Would my assumption regarding the
'bubble
residue' on the glass be accurate? Observation suggests this is what's
occurring here and if so then I understand that other 'things', (of which
have been discussed and noted in the past), are at play here. You don't
have to go into any explanation here, a confirmation will suffice as the
picture is getting clearer now when correlating this assumption with
previous information supplied. There are 2 things occurring, one is the
EICS itself *doing it's stabilising thing* and the other is *something going
on in the air space* above the liquid in the bottle. Yep, now the 'science'
is becoming a tad clearer.
Cheers...Neville.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2008 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Just picked up on something.
If you make it quite strong, seal it up real good at least for a good
while so it can do what it will do with what is there, rather than with
whatever else can get in and take its' place.
Not so strong doesn't make as much difference..the concentration of
things for other things to react *with* are less and it does what it does
with what should be there, faster..that being "hydrate" to protect, rather
than react.
Ode
At 11:27 AM 10/24/2008 +1030, you wrote:
Have noted some discussion regarding sealed containers and CS in the past,
(sorry but I didn't follow the conversation all that closely.......the
light bulb has just started to flicker), and have just realised what may
be going on with my CS.
I have a 1 litre, (don't know what that is in ounces, about 1/3 of a
gallon? ), clear bottle with a glass stopper and several other clear glass
containers which have screw tops with rubber inserts and I have noticed
that the glass bottle always has silver plating out on the glass and the
CS goes a pale golden colour while the other ones, with the screw tops,
stay clear with no plateout. The discussion a while ago regarding 'air'
has just made me see that this is what's probably going on with my CS. I
haven't bothered about it at all in the past, but did wonder why this
bottle always changed compared to the others. Like I said, I have never
really concerned myself over this and have just put it down to 'one of
lifes mysteries' and only now see that CS should be kept in an air-tight
container........yes? Not looking for an indepth analysis but this sounds
like it could right.........yes?
I usually use 40ml, (think that's approx 1 ounce), as a starter when
producing a new batch and it may be this particular pale golden CS which
results in colour, (can't distinguish what colour other than clear though
as it's so faint, maybe green, I think green comes before any yellow hue),
in my 'new' batch on occasion. I rotate about 4 or 5, one litre
containers and it's a while till I get to the glass one with the glass
stopper. Need to take note the next time I use this 'coloured' batch as a
seed and see what happens with the result.
It's OK, I've just never concerned myself unduly with the 'science' of CS
in the past that's all, I usually just 'make it and take it'.
Neville.
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