The method that Frank Key uses to determine the ionic/particle ratio is to test the sample with the spectrometer, then use a centrifuge to precipitate all the particles and then measure again. From those two measurements the ratio can be calculated.
Jim Meissner -----Original Message----- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:09 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Sovereign Silver will test CS Here is another source for testing particle size distribution: http://www.microtrac.com/labservices.cfm Here is Frank Keys lab: http://www.colloidalsciencelab.com/labPrices.htm Ode has suggested that you contact where ever you go and ascertain if they can measure an ionic/particle mix. - Steve N -----Original Message----- From: Jim Meissner yahoo [mailto:jpmeiss...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 9:42 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Sovereign Silver will test CS I just looked at the Sovereign Silver site and they test the particle size with an electron microscope which is totally bogus. Their product is mostly ions and should not be called colloidal silver since there is little to no colloidal particles in it. Frank Key will also test anyone's colloidal silver and has the correct test equipment ( $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer ) http://www.silver-colloids.com/Reports/reports.html Jim Meissner -----Original Message----- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 12:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Sovereign Silver will test CS Sovereign Silver will test CS. http://www.natural-immunogenics.com/lab_analytical.php - Steve N -----Original Message----- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 3:39 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>testimony of nutronix silver ceo The first samples I ever had tested went to: North Carolina State Department of Natural Resources Water Laboratory. [Half the building is a sign the taxpayers bought] All they do is test water for the state..that's IT. They sent back an average of three runs using large samples that ranged from 45 to 55 PPM. I seriously doubt it was anything over 20 PPM They did have a spectrophotometer, but probably didn't have the right light source to test silver. I don't believe they used it. Obviously the method they did use wasn't good enough. Other samples made the same way and done by two different people [Ole Bob Berger and Frank Key ] came out at 11. something PPM with the results very close to each other. Needless to say, I never went back to the state lab. ..about $200 per sample for a complete workup at a "real" lab on a $250,000 AA Spec and a $40,000 Malvern Particle Sizer......Ole Bob charged $7 if I recall, but he was a hobbiest using an army surplus Hach colorometer that was "surprisingly" accurate. [PPM only] Ode At 11:28 AM 12/15/2008 -0500, you wrote: >Thanks, Mike. >I will give it a shot. > >Cheers, >indi > >On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 10:00:09PM +0000, M. G. Devour wrote: > > Hi Indi, > > > > > Do you know of any labs that have affordable rates for that sort > > > of thing? I would love to get a lab report on what I'm producing. > > > > I literally picked up the Yellow pages and found an environmental > > testing service lab a few miles from here. Dropped my samples off > > and received the report in the mail a week or two later. I don't > > remember how much it cost but it wasn't so expensive I wouldn't do > > it again, nor so cheap I'd do it all the time... <wink> > > > > > > You could have a sample tested at an environmental lab. Tell > > > > them it's silver in clean water in the low ppm range and ask > > > > what methods they have for making the measurement. Atomic > > > > absorption spectroscopy is one method I vaguely recall reading about years back. > > > > Mike D. > > > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > > [mdev...@eskimo.com ] > > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <mdev...@eskimo.com>
