On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 08:04 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> " Unspun " allows for differing points of view to expand the
> possibilities, vs limiting vision with the belief that you are right
> because you believe every one else is wrong...and that, because no other
> point of view was tested.
Quit assigning Points Of View to YOUR "imagined others" implicitely.
Who IS "you" above?? obviously a straw-man envisioned to bolster your
(Ode's) "unrestrained reason" Point Of View.
Similarly, for your ridiculous examples below.
> ..takes a touch of schizophrenia?
Tunnel vision will do, and is less pejorative an Ad-Hominem argument.
>
> Examples of unspinning:
Rather, Re-spinning.
>
> There are those that cleave to a belief in CS, not on its own merits, but
> merely against the Pharm, condemning those of whom they have no knowledge
> or experience as simply evil.
And there are illimitably many imagined others - which is not to say
this particular foible doesn't exist in some people - just that it is
Your selection of a ridiculous point of view, chosen by you as the foil
for your "reasons"; i.e., Point of View.
> Unspun: The people IN the Pharm industry are exactly like those OUTSIDE
> the industry...just people.
Nope, even statistically this point of view is logically questionable.
And in terms of 'logical self-interest', a POV you appear to espouse
with an absolutist's fervor, they are probably - statistically, as a
generalized group, as well as individually - more likely to hold a POV
favorable to the pharmaceuticals they are associated with than is the
general public.
>
> "The doctors are out to kill us" ??
> Nonsense. They must operate inside a little box placed around them by
> their own patients, in self defense.
Poor things!
>
> They charge too much !!
> Sure they do, self defense is very expensive..and many are quitting
> because they can't make a living commensurate with the effort it took to
> learn what's in that little box.
> Many DO know much more than that, but can't use it.
>
> The Pharm is just GREEDY...go to the "Alternative" industry.
> But that industry is just as greedy for even less of a reason.
> Greed without all the risk and far fewer middlemen to pay, what a deal.
> Who pays for the defense teams?
Ah, yes: the good ol' "You're another" or "He did it first" argument;
used to justify anything sleazy. . .
>
> Unspun:
> "Business doesn't pay taxes and all costs are included in the bottom line,
> without which, there is no business"
> " That which people won't buy cannot be sold"
> The consumer has absolute control over both ends of the market.
> Without demand, supply is pointless waste.
Oh, sure! Many go without food or water for months at a time, bring
those poor little agribusinesses right to their knees, huh?
" "That which people won't buy cannot be sold" "
You tout that as some overwhelming logic?? Uncontrolled reason?? C'mon
Ode . . .
> I'm poor because I have no money.
Try Banking, I hear the government will support you to be professionally
incompetent; i.e., rhetorically devious.
> Give a poor man money and he'll be poor again in short order and stay that
> way.
> Many a millionaire has gone broke more than once.
At which point - SURPRISE! - he was poor. QED
>
> ode
>
>
> At 11:20 AM 4/25/2009 -0700, you wrote:
> >Unspun: Except by you?? C'mon, Ode, POV is POV - inescapable:
> >especially by you, an individualist of the first order.
> >
> >On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 09:21 -0400, Ode Coyote wrote:
> > >
> > > Indi unsubbed last I heard..can't stand the heat of uncontrolled reason
> > > unspun.
> > >
> > > ode
> > >
> > >
> > > At 12:44 PM 4/24/2009 -0400, you wrote:
> > > >WOO,HOO!!!!
> > > >A REAL FOOD FIGHT!!!
> > > >
> > > >BTW, you DO know about the silver Off-Topic list that you should be
> > > >using?
> > > >
> >
> >
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