For a good read, see Wm. Engdahl's recent article, and also the excellent Johann Hari. I think both articles may be at informationclearinghouse.info. If not a Google search should turn both up quickly; they are very recent. Both mention the world's largest pig ranch, American owned, in Mexico, where the "flu" first emerged.
Hari may well be right that our craving for cheap meat will lead to a devastating pandemic, and proper regulation is essential. The growth of these huge factories is quite recent, within the past 20 years, and can be done away with if only legislators would not sell out, as most do.
On Sunday, May 3, 2009, at 14:17 Asia/Tokyo, Clayton Family wrote:
Dear Mike, It's your list, so whatever rules you want you get.As a formerly trained scientist (even if I don't get to play in that sand box anymore) this sort of fearmongering (culling the herd, etc) really sets my last nerve on fire. We are all way too dumb to even make that necessary. I am speaking of the human race here, nothing personal for anyone to take offense at. We may just all bomb ourselves into oblivion before anyone else has the chance to do any culling. My opinion.There are so many worthwhile things that threaten us that focusing attention on this sort of thing dilutes legitimate discussion. It distracts attention that could rightly go to other really important issues. Issues that we stand a real chance of protecting ourselves and our families from if we have a head's up.Like whether or not the swine flu is a 1918 type of flu, for example. Jury is still out on that. That is just one small example. The economy and what we can be doing right now to help protect ourselves; the list goes on and on.I realize the irony of my having pointed attention to it instead of letting it go. It would have just slipped under the radar if I had not said anything, probably; or maybe it would have become yet another round of crazy stuff. Fine for somebody's sci-fi shelf, but for a what I had considered an experimental science list?Maybe because things are so uncertain Out There right now we are more willing to suspend disbelief, and some of us (ie: me) are more on edge. Sigh; like I need an edge to go over- "what edge- is there an edge there (yaaaahhhhhh......thunk)" .I'm happy you at least saw that I was trying to resolve it. Best Wishes, Kathryn PS- If you think this is suitable for listreading, you can send it on. On May 2, 2009, at 3:38 PM, M. G. Devour wrote:Just to remind everybody of a few things... Karen wrote:I see nothing wrong with the post [about swine flue as evil plot], magnetshave nothing to do with CS either but no one has said anything about those...Yes, I allow, even encourage, other health-related questions to be asked and answers given, so long as anything not CS-related gets covered more briefly. Magnets are okay, so long as they don't stick around too long. <wink> Why be so loose with the topic? Because we always have and always will *get* those kinds of questions anyway, and a *lot* of good help and useful information usually results. I've been criticized for this by some people, but I think it contributes a great deal to the group's sense of community.This is an important topic, and whether or not it is true will be seenin the next few months, there is no reason to ever be rude.Indeed, there is never reason to be rude. Rense is generally thought of as a fairly speculative informationsource -- some would characterize him as fringe -- but I would not havejumped on Paula for posting this and other such links OCCASIONALLY, as long as everybody understands that any discussion of the controversial aspects of them are carried out on the OT list. The difference between Paula's message and, for instance, Aaron's comments that I remarked on just yesterday, was that Paula was only giving a brief description of the content, and not a lengthy discourse or speculation. Part of the diversity that I expect everyone to tolerate is that some folks here believe things that you find a bit of a stretch... sorta like how your snotty brother-in-law (or pick your other favorite annoying person) thinks about *YOU* and that stupid colloidal silver stuff that you're always prattling on about... <end sarcasm> We know that not everything we're reading, mainstream or alternative, is true or paints a complete picture. We're all adults capable of discernment. I'm willing to allow a bit of... variety, so long as discussion of politics and other controversy stays strictly limited on the main list. I would appreciate if you all refrain from publicly correcting eachother's behavior (playing list cop). I'm the one that should do that. Iwill either make public posts like this one, or I'll talk quietly to the individuals involved off-list. If I'm doing the latter you won't know it, and your efforts to police things will only cause hard feelings and disruption.In the future, please contact me directly if you see anything you thinkshould not be going on. Thanks for your efforts to resolve the disagreement. Be well! Mike Devour silver-list owner-- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
