At 04:09 PM 5/3/2009 +0000, you wrote:
Hello,
I am new to the list. Your archives are down and so I hope you don't mind if I ask a couple of questions...

Please can somebody tell me what the difference is between colloidal and ionic silver?

 Colloidal suspension:  Particles small enough to stay suspended in water.
Ionic solution: One atom plus or minus an electron, dissolved in water.

 Both are safe to ingest.
 Neither will cause Argyria unless enough "silver" is RETAINED in the body.
Either can cause Agyria..except..ionic silver has a maximum concentration before it becomes colloidal when the solubility limits of the water are exceeded...unless the silver is in a more highly soluble compound such as Silver Citrate..also considered an ionic solution. Having an abnormal metals elimination system is almost a requirement for Smurfdom at virtually any exposure level and duration.

Agyria is a **combination** of problems that "include" silver, therefore, "silver" doesn't **cause** it...it's the combination that does. The Agyria rate for those who work silver...miners, refiners etc that are exposed to massive amounts daily for decades is around 1 in 2,000.

Normally, Oral doses of Silver [in any form] are eliminated at the rate of around 97% within 48 hours and inhaled DUST at 94% within 30 days. You can imagine how hard it is to find blue people to head up the Smurf parade of horrors? ..they'll keep sifting though the millions and find one now and then...and often doctor up the photo shoots.

All production methods that use electricity and water make nothing BUT ionic silver. "Particles" come later as solubility limits of water are exceeded, often in high concentration zones near the electrodes [Nernst Diffusion layer] and consist of varying ratios of Silver Hydroxide, Silver Oxide and metallic silver with generally between 85 to 97% remaining ionic over all.

Particle sizes and numbers determined by a TEM [electron microscope] are completely bogus. Those are photos of silver oxide particles made OUT OF Ions by preparing the sample for testing and were never "in the water" With 85 to 97% being ionic, that being as small as it can be and still be silver and anything bigger is not an Ion...."particle size" is virtually irrelevant.
 That's like 3 specks of pepper in a spoon of salt.
 If you turn all the salt INTO pepper, then you get a TEM photo of "particles"

If it's small enough to get in, it's small enough to get out.
Too big to get in?  Doesn't need to get out. [Free pass..through]
 Membranes in the body  make pretty darned good Osmosis filters.
 Those filters are even ion selective by virtue of what's behind them.

"Worry" is what gives ya the Blues, way beyond the capabilit-EIS of Silver.

Ode

Is it particle size and method of production? Which is safer to ingest for medicinal purposes, colloidal or ionic silver, in terms of preventing agyria problems?

Many thanks
Rachel


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