Hi James, > "Understand. That starts approaching plasma, touchy stuff :-)." ---V. > > Can you elaborate on "plasma" , or give me a reference that I may look at > in detail---JOH
Well, it isn't exactly plasma, but it sure "flows" differently than LV electricity :-) and has always tried (and occasionally succeded :) to flow into me at its earliest convience. Having been knocked on me arse a few times (and been lucky) I tend to be, perhaps, overly cautious about "high voltages" :-). I have no idea where the breakpoint actually is :-(. > Fluke says to not use their usual clamp transformer because the clamp is > not rated for that voltage. Hummm, one would think that they would be the folks that would have one :-(. > The generator lead wires are rated for 20KV > DC, so I don't think the current will arc into the transformer coil, but I > don't know about harmonics. On my list: find a HV clamp that does not > cost a fortune. I forgot to mention, but you probably assumed that I was > using 60 Hz. I am tempted to try it anyway, but not hooked up to my Fluke > 87, at least not for a first try. I would rather cook an el-cheapo Radio > Shack meter than the Fluke. Certainly :-)! I always liked what the techs used to say "If you have a good meter, it's a Fluke" :-). I would probably attach it before I turned on the juice and step away onto a well insulated surface where I could read the meter. > If you look at the past year or so of list traffic you will see a lot of > issues regarding HVAC methods vs. LVDC. It is still unresolved, and > everyone holds their own position aggressively. > [ ... ] I see I have much to learn here :-). MUCH! Is this list archived somewhere? The smaller particulate size makes sense in getting into / in contact with the "bad guys". The more the merrier one would think :-). > The problem with studying all this is that electron microscope time is very > expensive for the semi-pro researcher. > > So are culture studies. Even though the setup to do cultures is relatively > minimal, it still takes a lot of time and money if your do not have deep > pockets and have a day-job. The spectrum of opinion about particle size is > very broad. Very little is supported by solid compelling evidence, on > either side of the controversy All in time I guess, the hardest part is getting the data and correlating it. This is why I am so interested in having some clue as to what I have. After today I am pretty convenced that it is pretty easy to make a useful solution, but beyond being useful (certainly the important part) it is hard to tell someone "the facts", if you will. > One researcher and manufacturer of HVAC machines and sol, Bruce Marx, tells > me that he has looked at a lot of LVDC silver with a TEM. I don't think the > studies were large or formal. His findings are summarized: "...golf > balls...". Others claim otherwise. Especially those who make and sell > LVDC equipment and product. There are probably lots of variants. There is > also strong difference of opinion of the benefit of "big or little, only > with this subject, some say 'little is better". It is obvious that most > sols, starting with those made with the most simple equipment are > dramatically effective against a broad spectrum of pathogens, regardless of > what may eventually turn out to be best. And, it is obvious by sol color > that LVDC is capable of producing very-fine-particle silver. I just wish > one of those guys making big bucks with LVDC would send in a sample and > publish the results. Wonder why they have not? It could only help sell the product and lend creditibility to CS / alternative medicine. > For controlling start water temp. I think a fish tank heater might do the > trick. Long ago, I used to use them to grow Stropharia Cubensis, but I do > not know if the differential is small enough for silver, because I don't > know how critical start water temp is to the entire process. I think this > stuff has a lot of "strange attractors" In the HVAC process, enough heat > is generated to heat the water up to about 110 F. from 75 to 80 at start. > This makes me think of a tempered bath (heating and cooling) , to > optimize particle size uniformity. More of those funny green things needed > to do that, for sure. I don't know, until I get some equipment for recording these parameters with some degree of accuracy and developing some consistancy of dosage I have no way to even begin. Just too many unknowns outside of the fact that CS seems to work :). Thanks for your input and I look forward to continuing these discussions and sharing of research as time goes on! Take care, Vikki. -- Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, vikki.oz.net "Walking on water and developing software to specification are easy as long as both are frozen" - Edward V. Berard. 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