I happen to have a pound of calcium ascorbate powder that I have been
mixing with water and drinking.

Would there be any advantage, or disadvantage, to using the calcium
ascorbate vs the ascorbic acid when making the Liposomal Vitamin C
with lecithin granuals?

Thanks,

Dan

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 5:27 PM, Brooks Bradley<[email protected]> wrote:
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> Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 15:30:40 -0400 (EDT)
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> From : "Brooks Bradley" <[email protected]>
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> To : "J&S Campbell" <[email protected]>
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> Dear Sheila,
>
> Your question has been asked by others....(private inquires addressed
> directly to me). In the interest of saving me time and energy, I offer the
> following explanation. First, soy lecithin is a "slow" incorporator, when
> introduced into aqueous mediums....sometimes. Especially, when there is a
> high
>
> lecithin granule population ratio----relative to the total water volume. The
> general reaction is that a major percentage of the lecithin blends readily
> with the the water medium, but there will remain a definitive lecithin
> component which floats on the surface and exhibits a somewhat "gelatinous"
> appearance (this is quite natural, based upon the native characteristics of
> the substances involved). Do not fret over encountering such
> circumstances......they will not compromise the basic effectiveness of your
> protocol. However, it is of some import to understand that the speed, and
> completeness, of the incorporation of the granular lecithin---into the
> aqueous medium, is affected by a number of conditions such as the total
> amount of lecithin versus the total volume of water; the temperature of the
> water-based solution and the strength of any other substance being
> incorporated into the parent solution----from very weak, to saturated (none
> of which are seriously comprom! ising). Under the best of conditions, even
> after ultrasonic mixing for 8 to 9 minutes....there is, often, a thin
> meniscus (a distinct separation between two or more liquids in the same
> container). [Example: a thin layer of oil lying on top of water.] In the
> liposome generation methodology we are discussing, the visible, gelatinous,
> portion of the meniscus is principally made up
>
> of unincorporated lecithin. Is IS NOT a problem....in fact the lecithin
> component has useful, cardiovascular, health-support effects----beyond those
> being discussed here.
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> Either (or both) of two measures may be executed to reduce the volume of
> unincorporated lecithin you may be encountering. First, increasing the
> volume of the total water fraction, or secondly, raising the temperature of
> the total parent solution
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> and extending the time of US reaction exposure. One reason for the condition
> you are encountering is that the closer one gets to achieving a saturated
> solution of lecithin....the more resistant the process becomes to accepting
> more granular lecithin into that solution-----until the point is reached
> where no further material will incorporate---hence, THE SATURATION POINT IS
> EXPERIENCED.
>
> In my brief, original post, I did not discuss the nuances of speed, degree
> or completeness of dissolution of the lecithin----or for that matter--- the
> ascorbic acid fraction. Neither did I outline a number of other
> considerations; such as the effects of varying the volume of water versus
> the ratios of the solution components....or the total water volume versus
> the protocol components....primarily, because such elaborations would not
> serve usefulness/effectivity for the nontechnical
>
> DIY person. I simply outlined a SAFE, mid-spectrum, protocol allowing the
> average lay-person to achieve a measure of acceptable results for home
> experimental research.
>
> My personal bias is that it is better to have a small, uncombined, lecithin
> fraction presenting as a meniscus.....than to strive toward what I perceive
> to be a cosmetic achievement----of small consequence.....by means of
> diluting the total
>
> solution. In any event the excess lecithin is a positive addition.....it is
> just not
>
> active in the liposome process-----until some parameter changes that avails
> it the opportunity participate in the encapsulation process.
>
> My final comment on this subject: If it is of paramount importance to one,
>
> regardless of reason.... by just increasing the water volume and
> reactivating the US Cleaner for several minutes....the remaining lecithin
> will (in almost all cases) go into the emulsified solution. However, bear in
> mind, you have diluted the entire solution by an equivalent
>
> strength-----with NO increase in total vitamin C component.
>
> Please understand, these comments are not meant to browbeat "anyone"....in
> any way....but, rather, to aid the less technically-informed on the list.
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> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.
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> Date : Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:06:42 +0100
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> From : J&S Campbell <[email protected]>
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> To : [email protected]
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> Am I being thick here, I can't get soya lecithin granules to dissolve in
> water, does it come in another form in the US? Or can I just leave it to the
> ultrasonic cleaner do the business?
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> I've found an ultrasonic cleaner over here in the UK if anyone is
> interested, £39 for a 2.4litre model, down the page:
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> http://www.ultrasonic-clean.co.uk/index1.html
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> Thanks so much Brooks, as always, for telling us about this.
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> BW,
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> Sheila
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