[insoluble forms of silver, such as metallic silver] -Not the particulate form of silver in my EIS??
[silver complexed with selenium or sulfur] -What form of silver would that be then, ionic, particulate, protein, salts, citrates, nitrates, fumes inhaled in a silver mine, our little old EIS, mud that has settled on bottom of a container, Colloidal Silver?? Excuse my ignorance but perhaps you could specify for me? Must be pedantic as there are so many generalities spoken/unspoken/hinted/alluded to/interpreted of or by/hidden/left to guesswork etc, and must reiterate I'm not referring to CS, I'm referring to EIS only, I know exactly what that is by definition, if it concerns any other product other than EIS then I am done with it and have no further questions and see no mileage in wasting anyone's time, particularly mine, with irrelevancies. If there is not a destinction placed between EIS and CS then confusion and doubt will reign supreme forever, and I can't accept that, I know what I produce and it is only that product of which I have interest in. If selenium is associated with CS, then great, it's of no concern to me which makes this communication null and void...Press 'del' button on keypad now <g>. N. Subject: Re: CS>Truly puzzled Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 12:35:10 -0500 From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Neville, When I mention removing silver from the tissues I am referring to insoluble forms of silver, such as metallic silver or silver complexed with selenium or sulfur, in the tissues. Generally those are the forms of silver found in the tissues of people with argyria. - Steve N From: Neville Munn <one.red...@hotmail.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri Sep 11 22:38:14 2009 Subject: RE: CS>Truly puzzled I do believe we have read similar info Steve. Your snipped quote: [I have found nothing to substantiate that any type of selenium will remove silver from the tissues.] -The question I would ask is "what form of silver is being referenced?" i.e. predominantly ionic, predominantly particulate, compound, nitrate etc etc, could be any one of a multitude of CS concoctions mascerading as EIS. Not being of scientific background or possessing the appropriate credentials I will continue to follow my 'hunch' while searching for relevant information, which in all probability will not be found. With regard to EIS I have no doubt whatsoever, perfectly safe. I asked a question several months ago when last here but drew no response, to which I assume no one really knows, so am not willing to pursue it any further, I'll stick to my theory for the moment until I can find some info more substantial. N. Subject: Re: CS>Truly puzzled Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:50:32 -0500 From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Melly, I have found nothing to substantiate that any type of selenium will remove silver from the tissues. Studies do show that many forms of selenium complex with silver and will cause silver to be deposited in the tissues. The silver complexing with those same seleniums can cause a selenium deficiency leading to liver damage. Selenomethionine will not complex with silver and therefore not cause silver deposition in the tissues. It also supports the liver and critical functions in the liver that support silver removal but it does not remove silver directly. So I agree with all you have said except selenomethionine directly removing silver from the tissues. I hope this helps. - Steve N ----- Original Message ----- From: Melly Bag <tita_...@yahoo.com> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <silver-list@eskimo.com> Sent: Fri Sep 11 21:24:39 2009 Subject: RE: CS>Truly puzzled Steve, I thought selenium (methionine ME) was supposed to be taken when one ingests CS or EIS. It was said to escort out the silver particles from tissues. However, someone in another group wrote that other seleniums other than ME makes silver stay in tissues and can cause argyria. Are these correct? Melly --- On Fri, 9/11/09, Norton, Steve <stephen.nor...@ngc.com> wrote: > From: Norton, Steve <stephen.nor...@ngc.com> > Subject: RE: CS>Truly puzzled > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 7:25 PM > > > The Blue Man was using silver nitrate. That was bad enough > but he lived > in a part of South Dakota that had natural selenium in the > water The > combination of the two caused a buildup of silver selenide > in his > tissues that turned him blue. See: > > > http://www.jeolusa.com/APPLICATIONS/REALab/TheBlueMan/tabid/503/Default. > aspx > > - Steve N > > -----Original Message----- > From: Annie B Smythe [mailto:anniebsmy...@gmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:10 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Truly puzzled > > I've read the news articles about the "Blue Man". Then I > read articles > like the one I posted earlier today. And I'm confused about > just what > the behind the scenes pushers of the story think they're > accomplishing > with this two faced scenario. The studies say silver works > on the one > hand and then the mass media vehemently denies it on the > other. > > I certainly hope people do their own digging and don't fall > for the > sensation spouting mass media. They've proven time and > again how > inaccurate they can be, and that they're the bought mouth > pieces of > whomever meets their price. > > If it were just one or two stories I would think it was > just a space > filler to make sensational headlines, but this looks like a > targeted > type story released in print and via television for the > express purpose > of confusing and scaring people. Again. > > There aren't any more Walter Conkrites. 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