Hi All, Sam and I have been having a little discussion I thought it would be well to share, because it clears up a few things in the cow antibody story. He has given his permission for me to share these private emails.
Here goes: Dear Taylor, Sac> A fascinating and disturbing story indeed. One thing puzzles me Sac> though. I happen to edit health industry news including FDA Sac> approvals, trials, etc., and it's been my understanding that the Sac> FDA doesn't test anything -- it's up to the applicant to Sac> organize, operate and pay for all studies and clinical trials. Sac> The results are then presented, sometimes to an FDA expert panel, Sac> or directly to the FDA commission if they're feeling especially Sac> favorable (for whatever reason). The expert panel recommends and Sac> the commission usually, but not always, takes its recommendation. Sac> But no one at the FDA does anything but review the results of the Sac> research the applicant has done. Sac> Can you tell me why the Impro investigation was done differently? Sac> Sam Sac> << Hi Sam, Sac> I was messing with my fish tank last night, stirring the bottom up getting Sac> plants out, and as I watched the mulm (gunk) swirl up and float around, I Sac> pondered Alex's request for more information about Impro. It seemed to me Sac> that I'd have to stir the bottom of my mind tank, and probably some stuff Sac> would swirl up and around, just like in that fish tank, and some stuff would Sac> stay sunk between the rocks. So as I went to bed that night, pieces of Sac> information swirled in my brain. Even after sending the story to the list, I Sac> thought of how I should correct or expand on this and that. Sac> Let me see if I can clarify the facts of which I am certain, and those not. Sac> First, before I get to the trials, let me correct this: it wasn't the head Sac> of the FDA who went to the same class as the inventor, I believe it was the Sac> head of whatever department was connected with the trials. I'm sorry I can't Sac> be clearer than that. Sac> I believe Impro did have to pay for the trials. I am clear that Impro did Sac> not, and perhaps was not allowed to, instruct the farmers on the experiment's Sac> protocol. That was handled by the FDA. The farmers themselves told me about Sac> this. It may be that trials of 30 - 35 years ago were handled differently. Sac> It may even be that they are handled differently because of this case. Sac> By the way, other thoughts I'd like to add to the story were these: Sac> The reason they decided to test milk production at the first trial, was that Sac> they thought it was the path of least resistance. They had had consistently Sac> excellent results with milk production. They thought if they could pass that Sac> FDA hurdle, they could then get into the much more political arena of medical Sac> uses for Impro. They didn't want to take on the pharmaecological industry Sac> until they had something else going for them. What happened is very sad for Sac> us all. Sac> The trials were well before I came on the scene. I do not know how the data Sac> got to the FDA. I don't think the Collins dealt with the farmers in any Sac> capacity until investigating the results, but of that I am not absolutely Sac> certain. Sac> Best wishes, Sac> Taylor Lastly, this is part of another email: [from Sam] <<It also occurred to <<me that it might not have been the FDA at all, but the USDA, as <<the FDA may not get involved in animal care and milk production <<issues, especially several decades ago. I know the USDA and many <<state agriculture agencies get involved in research projects with <<farmers and manufacturer/researchers. Is this possible, given <<your admittedly murky memory? <<In any case, post anything you like of what I wrote, and thanks f<<or your response. <<Sam <<Ok, Sam, thanks. <<You might be right about the USDA. It makes more sense. I think the plan was for Impro to get the veterinary ok, then proceed to FDA for the medical ok. <<Best wishes, <<Taylor Sorry, everyone, about being so hazy. I haven't even given this matter a single thought in at least 15 years. It's been 19 years since I worked on it. Best wishes, Taylor -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
