Hi Peter, Will you share what ionizer you have?
-----Original Message----- From: Peter Converse [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:07 AM To: Ode Coyote; [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Alkalizing Hi All, I just ran a few quick tests which verify what Ode has said. I did pH testing using test strips on 4 liquid samples and came up with this result: 1) Tap Water - pH of ~6 2) Ionized water from Jupiter Neptune Ionizer which uses only tap water (no added salt or minerals unless you choose to...I don't) - pH of ~10 when pushed to the upper limit. 3) DW - pH of ~5 4) Fresh EIS (made yesterday, at least and made using DW) - pH of ~6 My ionized water when made to around pH 7 to 7.5 tastes wonderfully fresh and clean, literally like a mountain spring, unlike my tap water, DW or RO water or most other waters I have tasted. I don't sell these ionizers but I love mine! In the first few weeks I used my ionized water I had to work up in quantity and pH very slowly because of the die-off effect it created in me. I couldn't believe it at the time so repeated the experiment several times to verify the findings (which always remained the same...die-off) Some say that ionized water has restructured molecules I think. I'm no chemist and can't refute or confirm that statement but I will say that it's the only water which I have ever received die-off from drinking (Herxheimer effect). That being said, it hasn't "cured" me of anything, that's for sure! (except for fat wallet syndrome) My ionizer uses only the minerals in the tap water to do its thing but can be used with supplemental calcium if desired. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 5:42 AM Subject: RE: CS>Alkalizing > Your EIS generator makes Alkaline water in equal proportion to silver > ions. > > Date 2006 > Upon looking into Alkaline water and the machines used to make it, it > appears that the process is similar to making EIS, but the [hydronium?] > ions and hydroxyl anions are kept apart by use of a membrane interface. > Alkaline water is said to have a bitter flavor. > To see if that's the case, I ran a quick and dirty experiment: > > Setup: Two tall narrow glass jiggers set side by side with distilled > water in each and a loop of stainless steel welding rod between them to > make an electrical connection. > Placed the silver electrodes of a generator, [DC output mode] each one in > each jigger, not touching the stainless loop connector and ran the > arrangement for a while. > [I don't see *why* that would actually work, but it apparently did...] > Removed everything, tasted the water. One had metallic flavor, the other > bitter. > Added a drop H2O2 to each jigger, one flashed brown [silver ions], the > other had no effect [no silver ions] > Conclusion: [**] Very fresh CS is made of Alkaline water and free silver > ions. Alkaline water is water that is high in Hydroxyl radicals but > doesn't have opposite charged ions to neutralize it. [??] Alkaline > water supposedly oxygenates the blood and acts like a free radical > scavenger. [As does, supposedly, Ozone and Peroxide therapy, all of which > have similar radical Oxygen "dangle" atoms...O1 vs the normal O2] > > Date 2009 > Possibly Faulty memory seems to recall the use of salt in Alky water > makers > > Least-ways, in *this* one... > > http://www.hiddencures.com/ionizer.htm > > > Frequently Asked Questions > > > Q: Do you need to add minerals, and what kind? > A: Yes, minerals are required in order for the ionizer to work. I have > found that the most effective mineral to add is salt. Salt is needed to > make the water conductive so that the ionizer will work. > > Ohhh Kay..... > If salt is used, one electrode makes Hypochlorus acid and the other, > sodium hydroxide [Lye] which will definitely make that water Alkaline. > From the handy dandy household cleaner article that sheds light on what > blood electrifiers aka Zappers, might "actually" be doing. [Controllable > Electro-Chemo-Therapy? or an MMS analog with an antidote right around the > corner...not a blood electrolizer but a blood electro-chemicalizer, cuz > blood.... is bloody salty] > > ..easier to just add a few Lye crystals to water. [And turn it into salt > water when it hits the ole tummy] > > http://www.housekeepingchannel.com/a_820-Electrolyzed_Water_Alternative_to_C hemical_Cleaners > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysed_water > > http://www.psfk.com/2009/02/electrolyzed-water-miracle-cleaning-fluid-made-f rom-water-salt.html > > Ode > > At 12:37 PM 10/5/2009 -0400, you wrote: >>Hi Marshall, >> >>Can you tell me how you "make" alkalized water? I think my pH is way off >>too >>and I'm interested in getting squared away! >> >>Thx. >> >>Lisa >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]] >>Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 10:12 AM >>To: [email protected] >>Subject: Re: CS>Alkalizing >> >>Well, my wife and I have been using the alkalized water now for about a >>week I guess. She has also gotten all the green stuff to go with the >>diet, and is eating mostly alkaline foods. Her pH has gone from 5.5 to >>6.0/6.25 range first thing in the morning. Mine went from 6.75 to 8 >>yesterday, which is too alkaline, so I switched back to eating more acid >>foods, but this morning it is 8.5, which is way too alkaline. I am >>going to have to start drinking untreated water, to try and get back in >>balance. However it seems that her insomnia has gone away as well as >>most of her pains. >> >>Marshall >> >>Dianne France wrote: >> > Marshall >> > >> > I really hope you will keep us updated on the results. Wish the best >> > for your wife. I am also diabetic and have to watch but think I am >> > holding my own right now. Would love to rid myself of this disease. >> > >> > I think the better fats help. Since everyone has gone to the canola >> > oils etc. I think there is more incidence of the disease. >> > >> > Dianne >> > >> >> >>-- >>The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >> >>Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >> >>To post, address your message to: [email protected] >> >>Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] >> >>The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >> >
