In a message dated 09/10/1999 12:32:09 AM Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes:
> Hello > > Would you post your questions and his replies? > > With Kind Regards > Andrew Sloop > Andrew, Here are my questions and his replies. There were a total of two emails. *************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 06, 1999 5:23 AM Subject: Your Generators Hello Jim, >First, how long does it take to manufacture, or generate the silver solution using your machine? For example I presently use a Sota device to make mine. Using it with heated water I make 48 oz. of 6-7 ppm silver solution in about 2.5 hours. I use a glass tea kettle with an opening in the top of about two and a quarter inches. I use this because of heating the water before and during the process as recommended by Sota. The Sota device uses a wall transformer to save on battery life. The Sota device is a constant voltage device of course. I have never had any fall out from any of the solution and the color runs from dark yellow to light brown. I have no idea what the particle size is.< We recommend running our generator for 4-5 hours using 16 ounces of steam distilled room temperature water to obtain 15-20 PPM. Our generator makes 3-4 PPM per hour in 16 ounces of water. >Second, does the colloidal silver produced by your machine need to be stored in brown bottles? I use them presently, but some machines such as the CS Pro machines make solutions that are not light sensitive and are stored in clear bottles under ambient light conditions with no detrimental effect. I think Bob Berger on the CS list also make a machine that uses polarity switching that produces stable colorless silver that he says he stores in clear bottles.< Our instuction manual does recommend it, however we also state it can be stored in clear containers if kept away from direct sunlight We personally store it in clear containers and experience no fallout. >Can your electrodes be switched in manufacture of the colloidal so that more of the silver is utilized more efficiently and the electrodes last longer as pointed out in your pictures.< There is no reason to switch the electrodes during production since they have a life of hundreds of hours. It is recommended to switch them occasionally to even the deterioration. >Is spacing between the electrodes important?< No. We recommend placing them at least two inches apart or on opposite sides of your vessel. If you use a pint jar, that would be about 2 3/4 inches. >Would they work in my present setup.< Yes. <And is stirring recommended in the production of your silver?> No. >How do you know what the size of the particles are in the solutions produced by your machine?< We have had samples analyzed by the atomic absorption method. We also rely on information available on the internet regarding particle size of colloids. One such article is by Peter Lindemann which contains the following statement. There has been a fair amount of controversy in the public literature concerning the appearance of the "yellow" color. A lot of well meaning people have told me that "yellow is bad", "silver isn't yellow", "yellow is sulfur contamination", "yellow is iron contamination", and lots of other things. I finally found what I believe to be the answer to this question in a book titled Practical Colloid Chemistry, published in London in 1926. In the section on the "Colours of Colloidal Metals", sub-section on the "Polychromism of silver solutions" on page 69, I found the following statements: "The continuous change in colour from yellow to blue corresponds to a change in the absorption maximum of the shorter to longer wave-lengths with a decreasing degree of dispersion. This is a general phenomenon in colloid chemistry illustrating the relation between colour and degree of dispersion. "This section goes on to describe the colors that show up in a wide variety of colloidal metal solutions. Interestingly, they ALL have a yellow phase. For true "electro-colloidal" silver, the particle size range that can appear yellow is .01 to .001 microns (10 to 100 angstroms) because that is the size of silver particle that best absorbs the indigo light, leaving only its inverse color, yellow, to be observed. The final transparent-yellow appearance only shows up after the particles have become evenly dispersed. > Hope I answered your questions. Thanks for the inquiry. Regards, Trem Williams Hello Jim, > You stated in your reply to me that your unit generates 3-4 ppm CS per hour > and that it would take about 4 hours for 16 oz of approximately 20 ppm CS. > Would that mean that it would take about 12-16 hours to generate 48 oz in my > present setup (48 oz glass tea kettle)? And during this generating period is > any heat produced by the process. No heat is produced during the process. The water is used at room temperature. >I am thinking that I might like to test ppm from various points during the process with the Hanna WP-1 meter that I have. > I wouldn't want it too hot when I did that. The problem with using an instrument during the process is that the silver is not evenly dispersed throughout the water. The readings will not be accurate. If you test a spot with high or low concentration, you will surely get an erroneous reading. It will give you a general feeling however. Best readings are made after several hours have elapsed and the silver has evenly dispersed. > Also can this process be done in normal light, or does it have to be done in > the dark to prevent fallout due to light exposure? By normal light I mean > normal ambient light in my apartment, not direct sunlight. We make CS in ambient light in clear glass containers and have no problems. There is a thought expressed by one of the list members that production in the dark will result in less aglomeration of particles after the process but I have not substantiated that statement. Our process sometimes will occasionally leave a little fallout at the end of the process but after filtering, no more fallout is observed over long time periods. This indicates the particles are uniform in size because large ones would fall out over a short period of time. If you direct a laser beam through our CS several hours after the process is finished, you will observe uniform brightness of the beam without any "sparklers" or large particles. The laser is a fairly good tool to use to judge whether there are large particles in the dispersion. > Do the electrodes have some means to position, or attach, them to the sides > of the glass container about 2.5 inches apart? The top rim of this is a > plastic pouring collar like you might find on a coffee make glass pot. The electrodes are shaped like a shepherds crook so they may be placed over the lip of any vessel. They are dead soft silver and may easily be reshaped to fit any irregularity of the vessel. Please see the electrode pictures on our web page. As another way of making CS, you might consider using a one quart or two quart canning jar. They have straight sides and are readily available. Electrodes are easily placed over the edges. >I hope I am not imposing on > you by asking all these questions, but I need to information before I can > make an intelligent decision as to how to proceed from here. No Jim, that's why I'm here. To answer questions to the best of my ability. Hope I've helped you. Sincerely, Trem -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
