Yup..and they are all true if you ignore context and proportion...like..you know..the "facts" without all the varnish.

Formaldehyde is also a natural metabolite of many "healthy" foods.
Different people metabolize things in different proportions.
Methanol and formaldehyde is what makes some drunks skin stink and have hangovers...and some don't.

It's like that bad sugar thing with Corn Syrup and glucose...they ALL metabolize into Glucose which you can't live without, so why is any sugar any different than any other? Isn't the problem simply to much sugar in conjunction with problems in handing it?

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Aspartame is composed of two substances, aspartic acid and a methyl ester of phenylalanine. High heat can cause aspartame to break down into byproducts, including methanol, but so do the normal digestive and metabolic processes in the body.

The process of digesting aspartame goes something like this. Phenylalanine is broken down into methanol. Methanol is broken down into formaldehyde. Formaldehyde is turned to formic acid. Ultimately the formic acid is turned into water and carbon dioxide.

But aren't methanol (also known as wood alcohol) and formaldehyde (commonly used as an organic preservative, embalming fluid, for example) highly toxic substances? Yes, they are. But it's important to remember that the human body is a happy little chemical factory built to handle the conversion of methanol and formaldehyde into water and carbon dioxide.

Let's put this in perspective: the average diet cola contains about 200 milligrams of aspartame. About 1/10 of that aspartame gets metabolized into methanol. [And some portion of that into formaldehyde ]

For comparison, a serving of tomato juice the same sizes as a can of diet cola will produce about five times the methanol in your body as the aspertame in the diet cola. Fruits, fruit juices, vegetables, wine and beer will also produced methanol when digested. The chemical plant in your body can handle it in moderation, even in excess.


So maybe there is something special about how aspertame is broken down that interferes with how the body handles methanol and formaldehyde. Nope, not according to current scientific research.

Studies have tested how aspartame is converted into methanol. One study showed that consumption of 2000 milligrams of aspartame - that's 10 cans of diet soda - had no effect on the amount of methanol present in the bloodstream. Another study showed that ingestion of 600 mg of aspartame per hour for eight hours - that's 24 cans of diet soda - did not increase the amount of methanol in the bloodstream to abnormal or harmful levels. Yet another study showed that subjects were able to consume 10,000 milligrams of aspartame - that's the equivalent of 50 cans of diet soda - without ill effects and the level of methanol in the bloodstream returned to normal levels within eight hours.

http://tafkac.org/ulz/nutrasweet.html

OK, so the studies were done with "normal" people and not everyone is normal.

What that "means" is..IF somebody is having trouble with Aspertame. it's not the Aspertame, but their metabolism and they should also avoid tomato juice and alcohol until they get their metabolism straightened out.

Aspertame STILL tastes like CRAP.

The buzzz..{Give me sugar, or give me meth}
I mean, why CAN'T I drink decaf coffee with some methamphetamine in it ?

Ode


At 01:05 PM 2/25/2010 +0000, you wrote:
Hmm...I'm still out on that one Ode. I have read a lot of things about aspartame from different sources and they all agree that it is a toxic nerve poison. That dorway.com which someone posted for something else, has *huge* articles about it. People that ingest it can get symptoms which mimic things like MS and are misdiagnosed. I know it contains phenylanalin which is a natural substance for the body to use, but it is not necessarily in a *form* or amount that the body can use. Apparently it can also turn into formaldehyde when in certain conditions. I wouldn't touch it with a pole! dee

On 25 Feb 2010, at 11:25, Ode Coyote wrote:

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>  Too much of anything will do that.
> I didn't say anything about  "aspartame excitotoxins".
> The question is, are those any different than the ones the nerves *need* in the proper amounts ?
>
> I don't know the answer and aspartame tastes like pure crap to me, so I don't get anywhere near it for that reason alone. > From looking into it and consulting actual biochemists who could list the metabolites right off the top of their heads, the whole aspartame thing is an exaggeration of a natural process that the body does anyhow, on it's own, having to do with methanol. > Many foods digest into methanol, some 50 times more so than Aspertame and are considered to be healthy foods. > One glass of wine produces at least as much methanol as a case of Diet Coke.
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