Chernobyl, 3 mile island and a couple of Russian subs. Not a bad record
for an infant industry, now safer than coal even where socialists pretend
to care about people and designed crappy reactors.
Actually, throwing beer cans away isn't pollution, it's just a waste of
energy..no worse than throwing away previously heated up sand.
But "pollution" is one of those buzz words that get peoples undies all in a
wad.
Natures Aluminum is mostly inert oxides. A beer can is a beer can because
it take a long time to completely oxidize, ie, virtually inert because of
an inert oxide layer that protects the pure aluminum. No difference in effect.
Radioactive waste?
You have high temperature reactors and lots of scrap glass. It it were
just fused into glass blocks, you could bury it all in the sand in Chile
where it never ever rains and that stuff would sit there in the stinkin
desert safely away from people for 100,000 years doing nothing but glowing
at the dirt...a 10 square mile no go zone where no one goes anyhow. Big deal.
And even if it did rain, radioactive granite erodes faster than glass.
Before then? There's nuclear batteries that can produce electricity for
decades. Encase those in glass...power the Lost Wages Nevada wing-nut rip
off moth-and-flame industries with em and when they get as dim as the
gamblers paying to go to the cleaners, take em to Chile and stack em as
high as the odds against winning as a monument to waste in general.
Ode
At 09:14 AM 4/23/2010 -0400, you wrote:
Chernobyl
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Richard Goodwin
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: CS>A closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector
If a radioactive substance is moved from one place, e.g. in the ground, to
another place, e.g., in a smoke detector, how is that "adding" to it?
All the radioactive matter on earth is somewhere right now. When we use
it, we move it from wherever it is to some place else. We don't create it.
Actually, you could make an argument that by mining radioactive substances
and concentrating them into reactors, bombs, or other "products", you are
making the world a bit safer, since it is easier to avoid exposure to
reactors, bombs, etc, than to the same substances all spread out in the ground.
I never have understood quite why people get all wrapped around the axle
about some things. For example, we take aluminum out of the ground, where
it is one of the more abundant elements in the earth's crust, and we make
beer cans out of it. But if we then put that aluminum back in the ground,
e.g., by throwing empty beer cans into the dump, people get all in a
lather about pollution. Why? We are just putting the aluminum back where
we found it.
And "wasting water". People get all wound up about using too much
water. But it's not like it gets used up. It's still there after
whatever we use it for. And it comes back to us from rain, etc. Why all
the furor?
Yeah, I know, there can be local shortages, but overall the total amount
of water on earth doesn't really change, does it?
Dick
From: Bob Banever <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, April 22, 2010 8:58:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>A closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector
Alan,
Yes of course. Best not to add to it. I'm sure you would agree.
Cheers.
----- Original Message -----
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Alan Jones
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: CS>A closer look at americium 241 from a smoke detector
Better go live in a lead box, even the natural world is full of it.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Bob Banever
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
No amount of radiation is trivial. No level is safe and all ionizing
radiation causes damage to DNA.
--
Alan Jones
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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people." (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)
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