pj, I might suggest a simplified approach. Since much of the test information in the patent was using the copper-silver, citrate solution at a 20 percent solution, just make the solution at the 20 percent concentration, which would be 10 ppm silver and 80 ppm copper. To do that, you could make the ionic silver in your CS generator. Assuming an ionic content of 85 percent, just make the CS at 12 ppm. Then add the citric acid to the CS, add the potassium carbonate and use the 9 volt batteries along with copper electrodes to make the copper citrate.
As far as using 9 volt batteries, you will need two 9 volt batteries in series. You can make copper citrate with 9.8 volts. A 9 volt battery quickly drops to 8 volts in use and so two will give you about 16 volts. You will need to use alkaline 9 volt batteries if you make the full strength solution. Carbon-zinc 9 volt batteries just barely have enough capacity for the 20 percent solution. A carbon-zinc battery's capacity is roughly 35 mAH in this application. An alkaline battery's capacity is 300 to 500 mAH, depending on the brand used. (See link below) The capacities assume you use generation currents of 100 mA or less. Here are the approximate mAH needed for the full strength and 20 percent solutions. Full strength: To make 50 ppm silver in citric acid - 12.5 mAH To make 400 ppm copper in citric acid - 162 mAH Total: 165 mAH 20 percent: To make 10 ppm silver in citric acid - none (use CS generator) To make 80 ppm copper in citric acid - 32 mAH Total: 32 mAH As you can see, carbon-zinc 9 volt batteries only have enough capacity for the 20 percent solution. Alkaline 9 volt batteries can easily make the full strength solution. - Steve N http://www.powerstream.com/9V-Alkaline-tests.htm Discharge tests of 9 Volt transistor radio style Batteries -----Original Message----- From: Shirley Reed [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 1:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL:CS>Steve Norton and copper, silver, citrate solution Steve, Thank you for that 'recipe' for the MRSA treatment solution. Is it possible for you to post a 'neighborhood' type formula for this? I am not familiar with many of the things you mention so a simplified version will be very greatly appreciated. I am intending to try to use 3 nine volt batteries in series instead of my cs generator. Do you think that will work? If my questions reflect so much ignorance that my situation is hopeless, then please ignore this. Since MRSA reportedly killed more people last year than did AIDs, then it seems to me that this Cu,Ag,citrate solution should be in everyone's grasp. I can make the CS, have the citric acid, copper wires, and can do the ph, but cannot get proper ppm measurements. Anyhow, thanks for plowing through this. pj -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]>
