On electrode emits silver ions  [Ag+], the other Hydroxyl anions [OH-]
Some of the Ag+ does find it's opposite OH- and form silver hydroxide [AgOH ] which is not very soluble and makes up MOST of the "particles"

If you use a bit too much current , you'll see a golden mist flowing downward off one electrode [silver oxide], a white mist [silver hydroxide] flowing downward off the other...each flowing toward the other ....and NOTHING in between [silver ions]

If the electrodes are close to the bottom of your glass container and the glass intersects the invisible portion of that inverted arc, the silver ions evidently pick up electrons there and form a nice shiny mirror bonded to the glass. If the velocity of the ions is high enough [stirring], they'll pick up electrons and keep going instead of bonding...but with that velocity, they can also impact the surface tension of stationary bubbles on an electrode and get caught. [along with silver hydroxide particles traveling at high velocity]

Meaning..you can stir too fast.

If enough of them build up on that bubble, it forms a semi conductive surface from which grows another bubble which collects particles to grow yet another bubble and you get a fractal "greybeard" on that electrode. The velocity of the water forms a pressure bond for the bubbles, enhancing natural adhesion, so they don't get washed off and the greybeard will grow into the direction of the water flow or collect in eddy currents just behind the edges of flat electrodes. At some point it gets big and heavy enough to fall off and sink or gets whipped around in the water flow and broken up, while some not yet laden enough to sink, rise and pop, transferring their load to the merging surface tensions on top. Much of the gas in the bubbles of the sunken structure will eventually partly dissolve into the water if left alone and the bubbles emit a white mist.

To make a metallic particle, a silver ion must pick up a **free** electron and free electrons don't exist in a liquid....but not everything is liquid. There will be electrons available at the water/air interface on an electrode as well as adhesion points of hydrogen bubbles [metallic silver tends to get caught on the surface tension interface] and there are electrons deposited on the surface of the glass like a capacitor at the water/glass interface..using the metallic impurities inherent in the silicone structure that glass *is* as a sort of piss poor solar panel capturing electrons from whatever frequency ranges of electromagnetic energy that might be around.

I don't think MesoSilver is strictly "metallic silver", but more like a form of silver oxide that has more silver to it than oxygen...perhaps a sort of mechanical structure that includes both metal and metal oxide. There is no form of pure silver that I know of that is brown, regardless of particle size. A pure metallic structure can be coated with silver oxide, however, and even *appear* to be black.

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At 03:55 PM 8/31/2010 -0700, you wrote:
I was under the impression that the particles in EIS are basically metallic silver that was "stripped" off of the anode along with silver ions coming off. If I understand correctly, Mesosilver particles are metallic silver.

I read elsewhere that while silver ions are coming off the anode, hydroxide ions are also coming off of the cathode. Then the two combine into silverhydroxide. Then molecules of silverhydroxide agglomerate to form particles. Is this true? If so, where is the hydroxide coming from? Or is there only metallic particles? Or are there both metallic particles as well as silverhydroxide particles?

Thanks,
~David A.


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