Hi Jaxi, This was my thinking exactly, but was just wanting to hear other experiences. I am not afraid of any of the flakey top-floaters. I agree, that in the process of cleaning the electrodes you actually introduce more sludge into the water in removing the rods. I am using a 24oz jar of distilled water (via H20Labs [ http://www.h2olabs.com/ ]) and it does take a long time. I am making my second batch now and I am being more diligent cleaning the electrodes more often.
Thanks for your response, CT > The purer your starting water and the more water in the container the longer > it takes. I do a quart at a time with distilled water and it typically takes > more than 12 hrs and less than 18 hrs on polarity switching auto shut off. I > don't watch it. I don't pull it out mid cycle and wipe off the silver rods - > which is more likely to introduce contaminants into the process in my > opinion. Some people "prime the pump" so to speak by putting some of their > last batch into the jar so that it will process faster - your choice. > > Yes, a little bit of the stuff that builds on the silver rods (I forget the > technical name) will escape into the EIS, but at least for me it is really a > tiny amount. And it will also settle to the bottom of the container so if you > don't want to drink it, don't - use that for topical or other application. > Personally I am just not that worried about that stuff, I have a hard time > believing it will harm me in any way if I swallow some of it. But if you are > bothered by it just run your finished product through a coffee filter. > > Peace, > > Jaxi > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:08 PM, CT <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi Neville, >> >> Being new to CS making, I am detecting that I have purchased a a ³bells and >> whistles² machine. What type of machine do you recommend, or build yourself? >> I am fine staying with the production and cleaning the electrodes. My first >> batch took far longer than I thought it would, and I was watching it until I >> went to sleep. When I awoke a few hours later the batch was done. >> >> How long should a batch take? I am making mine in a squared off 24oz Ball >> canning jar. >> >> Thanks for the continued advice, >> CT >> >> >> >> >>> I take 30ml {1 ounce I believe} every morning before breakfast when the >>> mouth is driest, been doing this for several years. If I feel some issue >>> coming on, like cold or flu or whatever, I up that dose to a 250ml glass {8 >>> ounces I believe}, and I may do that for a couple of days. >>> >>> And I'd be removing those electrodes every 30 minutes to clean them, if you >>> think they need cleaning or not, regardless if the unit has auto shutoff or >>> polarity reversal or whatever. Mid cycle over 6 hours is nowhere near good >>> enough for me [opinion]. >>> >>> All that polarity reversal will do is blow any stuff off the electrode >>> straight back into the water, hence decanting or skimming or whatever will >>> be required to clean the solution up. Between the time frames for polarity >>> reversal there WILL be some buildup on the electrode {no matter how minute >>> that buildup may be}, and after continual polarity reversal over a given >>> time frame that buildup blown off the electrode at each time frame will >>> accumulate and end up in the solution, hence the need for decanting or >>> whatever. >>> >>> Some things just don't work satisfactorily for my liking, diligence and >>> attention to the production process means more to me than 'setting and >>> forgetting'. If I was on dialysis I'd have to remain in one place for the >>> duration, can't set it up and then go shopping, or go to bed during the >>> process. >>> >>> Disclaimer: I got nothing against those units with the bells and whistles >>> by the way, that's personal choice...but I won't own or use one, for the >>> reasons you quoted. >>> >>> N. >>> >>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 12:26:29 -0500 >>> Subject: Re: CS>First Batch of CS >>> From: [email protected] <http://[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <http://[email protected]> >>> >>> Re: CS>First Batch of CS Thanks for the response Asif, >>> >>> I did, indeed, wipe the negative electrode silver clean mid-cycle. I think, >>> all-in-all it was a pretty successful batch and I had my first ³swallow² >>> this morning. I took about 1/2 ounce shot, held it in my mouth for about 5 >>> min and then swallowed. No immediate reactions. I have a wart on one finger >>> that I will be watching as sort of the ³test results area.² I am generally >>> healthy however and wonder what sort of initial program dosage I should go >>> on. I was planning on 1 ounce daily (1/2 morn and 1/2 night). Any thoughts >>> or suggestions on this? >>> >>> Thanks again to all, >>> CT >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would decant into the final vessel and stop just before the sludge starts >>>> pouring out. >>>> I do not believe the floaters at the top should be a problem >>>> Also make sure you wipe and clean your electrodes even mid cycle so that >>>> the sludge is at a minimum >>>> If you're excessively creating sludge then you may wish to lower your >>>> current a bit. I would go no higher than 1ma per square inch squared >>>> maximum. >>>> For example I brew with a 6 inch squared surface area and I brew at 2.5 ma >>>> roughly with constant current control. And it doesn't turn yellow, however >>>> whenever I approach 1ma per square inch squared then the liquid will colour >>>> slightly towards amber. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On 10 Mar 2012, at 15:43, "CT" <[email protected] >>>> <http://[email protected]> <http://chris%40saucyenterprizes.com >>>> <http://chris%40saucyenterprizes.com/> > > wrote: >>>> >>>>> First Batch of CS Hello all, >>>>> >>>>> I just made my first batch of CS. I think it came out pretty good, but now >>>>> I am left with a quandary: I have some thick silvery sludge at the bottom >>>>> of my jar and some smaller flakey silver floating on top of the CS liquid. >>>>> I don¹t have any ³approved² filtration method in place and I would like to >>>>> decant the liquid, however I am tempted to paper-towel the top of the >>>>> liquid to remove the flakey pieces. I think I can decant without getting >>>>> any of the bottom sludge into the new container. >>>>> >>>>> Any advice would be very appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Chris Thomas >>>> >>> >>> > >
