closed, that is why I can't really tell you how long I use them. I have two 
 LED units and do both eyes at the same time with the units resting on my 
closed  eyes. Ears, I time them for at least 30 seconds and can see my clock. 
 
Optoms  and Opthalmic docs are the only health carers that can peer into 
you (into the  back of the eyes) and see degeneration and this immediately 
indicates lack of  Vitamin C type Scurvy etc etc!!

I also started taking a teaspoon of ascorbic acid, 1/2 teaspoon  of baking 
soda in H2O each morning. That could also help control my macular  
degeneration(MD). MD runs in my family lines which date back to England and the 
 
giant knight how is one of my relatives.
 
Mike, too bad that you don't get involved to update Rifes MOPA to  new 
generation electronics. I cuss the MOPA drifting all over the spectrum when  
trying to get a resonance on a known kill frequency. We need some design type  
electronics people to get involved. Could also be a big money  maker

 
Brickey
 
 
In a message dated 5/5/2012 7:09:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[email protected] writes:

Hi, you didn't say whether you used the LEDs with eyes open or closed? 
And  from what distance away from your  eyes?
thanks,