closed, that is why I can't really tell you how long I use them. I have two LED units and do both eyes at the same time with the units resting on my closed eyes. Ears, I time them for at least 30 seconds and can see my clock. Optoms and Opthalmic docs are the only health carers that can peer into you (into the back of the eyes) and see degeneration and this immediately indicates lack of Vitamin C type Scurvy etc etc!!
I also started taking a teaspoon of ascorbic acid, 1/2 teaspoon of baking soda in H2O each morning. That could also help control my macular degeneration(MD). MD runs in my family lines which date back to England and the giant knight how is one of my relatives. Mike, too bad that you don't get involved to update Rifes MOPA to new generation electronics. I cuss the MOPA drifting all over the spectrum when trying to get a resonance on a known kill frequency. We need some design type electronics people to get involved. Could also be a big money maker Brickey In a message dated 5/5/2012 7:09:53 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi, you didn't say whether you used the LEDs with eyes open or closed? And from what distance away from your eyes? thanks,

