Sorry to repeat myself but Timothy Leary took photos of the different
molecular shapes of different ("non chemical") homeopathic remedies - so if
there is no chemical trace of any substance in the water used but the
molecular shape is changed - what changed it?
Jane
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From: "Marshall" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: Subject: CS>microwave food: hard-boiled vibrations
So you don't believe there is anything to such things as holy water?
If water can form crystal structures, and there is plenty of evidence it
can homeopathic water being only one of them, then almost certainly the
absorption spectrum will change with that structure. Take carbon for
example, if structure did not affect the absorption spectrum, then
diamonds, graphite and flullerines would be the exact same color. They are
not. Thus I know no such thing, and since I ran the experiments several
times and got consistent results I know something other than anything
physical can affect the absorption spectrum of water. To claim that one's
theories of how the universe works are right simply because your theory
must be right, and that experimental evidence is of no importance is
nothing more than a religious fervor. I don't pretent to understand it,
all I can do is report what I observed. To make something like that up is
ridiculous and there is no reason for anyone to do it. I am a seeker of
truth, and when I run across something I find interesting I tell others
about it in hopes it might help us understand the universe. I am not going
to pretend something did not happen or lie just because it does not fit
your or my own little view of the universe and would make things easier.
This is not theory, but experimental evidence. For instance take the
paper published in Nature 1988 by Benveniste and 13 other scientists, and
I quote from that article on homeopathic preparations:
"specific information must have been transmitted during the
dilution/shaking process. Water could act as a template for the molecule,
for example, by an infinite hydrogen-bonded network, or electric and
magnetic fields... The precise nature of the phenomenon remains
unexplained."
Quoting from "The Field" by Lynne McTaggart page 63: " Benveniste had
discovered the memory of water".
I just searched to see if any others have made similar measurements. I
found several, the following is from the book: "The Intention Experiment":
"After a group of healers had sent healing to samples of water, Grad
chemically analyzed the water by infrared spectroscopy. He discovered
that the water treated by the healers had undergone a fundamental change
in the bonding of oxygen and hydrogen in its molecular makeup. The
hydrogen bonding between the molecules had lessened in a manner similar to
that which occurs in water exposed to magnets. (9) A number of other
scientists confirmed Grad's findings; Russian researchers discovered that
the hydrogen-oxygen bonds in water molecules undergo distortions in the
crystalline microstructure during healing.
These kinds of changes can occur simply through the act of intention. In
one study experienced meditators sent an intention to affect the molecular
structure of water samples they were holding through the meditation. When
the water was later examined by infrared spectrophotometry many of its
essential qualities, particularly its absorbance--the amount of light
absorbed by the water at a particular wavelength--had been significantly
altered. (11) When someone holds a focused thought, he may be altering
the very molecular structure of the object of his intention."
9. B. Grad - "Dimensions in "Some biological effects of laying on of
hands" and their implications" in H.A Otto and J. W. Knight Dimensions in
wholistic Healing New Frontiers inthe Treatment f the Whole Person
(Chicago: Nelson-Hall, 1979, pages 199-212
11. G. Rein and R. McCraty, "Structured changes in water and
DNA asscoiated with new physiologicvally measurable states," Journal of
Scientific Exploration, 1994; 8(3), 438-439
Mind you that when I ran the experiments, I was completely unaware others
had done so as well. But I still got exactly the same results as they
did. It seems that your results, if you even ran the experiments, are
questionable since they do not agree with the others who have run these
experiments and published their findings and aren't afraid to tell the
truth.
Marshall
On 5/14/2012 10:26 PM, Mike Monett wrote:
Marshall<[email protected]> wrote:
You are welcome to your opinion. But it is uncalled for to say I have
faked any data. Nothing could be further from the truth. I may have
misinterpreted data, misunderstood data, but I have NEVER faked data,
and never would. I am outraged by your unfounded accusations which have
no basis in fact at all. Ad hokem attacks are against the ground rules
here, and totally uncalled for.
Which unit do you have? They make a number of units. Mine is a Hack DR
4000. which cost around $5,000 when I bought it.
Have you even run such experiments with your unit, or are you assuming
that it would not give similar results and not even running the tests
similar to what the Catholic Church did when they refused to look
through Galileo's telescope because they knew it could not be true?
Marshall
There is no mistake Marshall. What you are doing is deliberate.
You know how a spectrophotometer works. You have had access to one
long enough.
The only way you can change the spectrum of distilled water is to
put something in it. Ions, atoms, molecules, or any kind of physical
matter.
It does not work on thoughts, emotions, prayer, or any non-physical
thing. It does not work on coils of copper wire.
If you are presenting data and claiming it is the result of these
things, then you are faking the data.
There is no place in this forum for that behavior.
Mike Monett
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