Marshall:
 Any experience/thoughts on "Matrix Energetics" and their workshops?

regards
hg

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From: Marshall <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:54 am
Subject: CS>Water, subtle energy, homeopathics, placebos, and nacebos
To: [email protected]

> The study of subtle energies on water is like no other.  
> The pitfalls to obtaining valid information are as difficult for 
> many people to understand as the results of some of the research.
> 
> This is covered quite nicely at: 
> http://theintentionexperiment.com/279.htm which I quoted from in 
> my previous message.
> 
> On page 24 of the intention experiment, which I quoted from 
> before and viewable at: 
> http://books.google.com/books?id=79ZWoymp2VsC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=intention+experiment+grad+chemically+analyzed&source=bl&ots=5WeVnP6kWQ&sig=sHPE1BiFEV5RLyjvvi05yVwEIgY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VWSyT5vtG8bqtgeJi_jSCA&ved=0CFQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=intention%20experiment%20grad%20chemically%20analyzed&f=false
> you can read about much of this research.
> 
> But one of the most interesting stories is the on outlined in 
> "The Field" page 63 on.  The experiments had to do with dye 
> absorption, and the effect of inhibiting it by an enzyme, 
> specifically the anti-IgE.  The story goes that over 
> several years he performed experiments where this enzyme is 
> added to water, the successively diluted until there is unlikely 
> any atoms of the original enzyme in the water.  This is 
> standard homeopathy.   But when what should have been 
> pure distilled water was dyed, the dye was inhibited just as if 
> the enzyme was still there. As I had mentioned before this was 
> published in Nature after labs in France, Israel, Italy and 
> Canada successfully repeated the results.  In the article 
> the challenge was issued to find any fault in the study and many 
> labs took up the issue.
> 
> Once published many labs come back with negative results and a 
> witch hunt ensued.  Benveniste became so tired of labs 
> trying to repeat the work and failing, he ended up creating a 
> robot that did all the work for him without any human 
> interaction. However when testing he found that the robot 
> usually worked and confirmed the findings, but occasionally 
> would fail.  Further investigation found that every time it 
> failed a certain woman was present.  At one point he had 
> her hold a test tube of active homeopathic granules in her hand 
> for 5 minutes, and retested them.  He found that all 
> activity and all molecular signaling had been erased!  So 
> basically if a lab that was performing the experiment had one or 
> more people who did not believe it would work, they would block 
> the action somehow preventing it from working!
> 
> Anyone interested in reading the whole story should be able to 
> find it in the online version at: 
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/32934627/THE-FIELD-Lynne-McTaggart 
> although all my quotes came from the paperback book which I am 
> assuming is the same.
> 
> Anyway, this nacebo effect can cause very real problems. Not 
> only can it make experiments fail, but it even makes double 
> blind studies questionable.  After all, does it matter if a 
> sample that is handled by such a person suppose to be the active 
> or placebo, if the experimenter is changing the subtle energy of 
> the sample, like resetting  or clearing it, the results 
> will be invalid. Same goes if for instance a healer handles 
> samples, giving healing qualities to all the samples.
> 
> Another possibility which should be considered is that a 
> negative or disbelieving stock clerk at a health food store, or 
> homeopathy manufacturer could theoretically ruin ALL the stock 
> of homeopathic formulas there.  Or even the regular UPS guy 
> who picks up from the warehouse, or delivers them to the store 
> could ruin homeopathic preparation he comes in contact 
> with.  It is no wonder that homeopathic studies range from 
> stellar success to spectacular failure.
> 
> Marshall
> 
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