I am not knowledgeable about them. However when I get the chance I will
take a look at it and see what I think.
Marshall
On 5/15/2012 11:02 AM, HARSHA GODAVARI wrote:
Marshall:
Any experience/thoughts on "Matrix Energetics" and their workshops?
regards
hg
----- Original Message -----
From: Marshall <[email protected]>
Date: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:54 am
Subject: CS>Water, subtle energy, homeopathics, placebos, and nacebos
To: [email protected]
> The study of subtle energies on water is like no other.
> The pitfalls to obtaining valid information are as difficult for
> many people to understand as the results of some of the research.
>
> This is covered quite nicely at:
> http://theintentionexperiment.com/279.htm which I quoted from in
> my previous message.
>
> On page 24 of the intention experiment, which I quoted from
> before and viewable at:
>
http://books.google.com/books?id=79ZWoymp2VsC&pg=PA24&lpg=PA24&dq=intention+experiment+grad+chemically+analyzed&source=bl&ots=5WeVnP6kWQ&sig=sHPE1BiFEV5RLyjvvi05yVwEIgY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VWSyT5vtG8bqtgeJi_jSCA&ved=0CFQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=intention%20experiment%20grad%20chemically%20analyzed&f=false
> you can read about much of this research.
>
> But one of the most interesting stories is the on outlined in
> "The Field" page 63 on. The experiments had to do with dye
> absorption, and the effect of inhibiting it by an enzyme,
> specifically the anti-IgE. The story goes that over
> several years he performed experiments where this enzyme is
> added to water, the successively diluted until there is unlikely
> any atoms of the original enzyme in the water. This is
> standard homeopathy. But when what should have been
> pure distilled water was dyed, the dye was inhibited just as if
> the enzyme was still there. As I had mentioned before this was
> published in Nature after labs in France, Israel, Italy and
> Canada successfully repeated the results. In the article
> the challenge was issued to find any fault in the study and many
> labs took up the issue.
>
> Once published many labs come back with negative results and a
> witch hunt ensued. Benveniste became so tired of labs
> trying to repeat the work and failing, he ended up creating a
> robot that did all the work for him without any human
> interaction. However when testing he found that the robot
> usually worked and confirmed the findings, but occasionally
> would fail. Further investigation found that every time it
> failed a certain woman was present. At one point he had
> her hold a test tube of active homeopathic granules in her hand
> for 5 minutes, and retested them. He found that all
> activity and all molecular signaling had been erased! So
> basically if a lab that was performing the experiment had one or
> more people who did not believe it would work, they would block
> the action somehow preventing it from working!
>
> Anyone interested in reading the whole story should be able to
> find it in the online version at:
> http://www.scribd.com/doc/32934627/THE-FIELD-Lynne-McTaggart
> although all my quotes came from the paperback book which I am
> assuming is the same.
>
> Anyway, this nacebo effect can cause very real problems. Not
> only can it make experiments fail, but it even makes double
> blind studies questionable. After all, does it matter if a
> sample that is handled by such a person suppose to be the active
> or placebo, if the experimenter is changing the subtle energy of
> the sample, like resetting or clearing it, the results
> will be invalid. Same goes if for instance a healer handles
> samples, giving healing qualities to all the samples.
>
> Another possibility which should be considered is that a
> negative or disbelieving stock clerk at a health food store, or
> homeopathy manufacturer could theoretically ruin ALL the stock
> of homeopathic formulas there. Or even the regular UPS guy
> who picks up from the warehouse, or delivers them to the store
> could ruin homeopathic preparation he comes in contact
> with. It is no wonder that homeopathic studies range from
> stellar success to spectacular failure.
>
> Marshall
>
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