AMEN!!!!   Bob Smith
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neville Munn 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:21 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>RSC:The toxic effect of silver ions and silver nanoparticles 
towards bacteria and human cells occurs in the same concentration range


  You highlight the very reason I don't read anything anymore written by so 
called 'experts' or 'professionals' which appear in the public domain.  They 
never speak about the silver solution as produced in the home using LVDC and 
Distilled Water.  Invariably it's always some other concoction or is produced 
using HVAC, but never just DW and LVDC as we produce in the kitchen.  And 
nobody to date has cleared up the question of what occurs when EIS comes in 
contact with ammonia and peroxides and whatever else when travelling throughout 
the human body?  Why is that - I guess nobody knows...yet.


  Anything written by mainstream must conform to mainstream in what, or how, 
they write it.


  The one thing I have learnt over time of my involvement with EIS is to - 
ignore most of what people state, and disbelieve the rest!



  N.



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  From: [email protected]
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: RE: CS>RSC:The toxic effect of silver ions and silver nanoparticles 
towards bacteria and human cells occurs in the same concentration range
  Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 13:21:34 -0700


  I don’t believe that colloidal or ionic silver are toxic to human cells. 
Let’s analyze the abstract, which appears below:



  Silver is commonly used both in ionic form and in nanoparticulate form as a 
bactericidal agent. This is generally ascribed to a higher toxicity towards 
prokaryotic cells than towards mammalian cells. Comparative studies with both 
silver ions (such as silver acetate) and polyvinylpyrrolidone (PVP)-stabilized 
silver nanoparticles (70 nm) showed that the toxic effect of silver occurs in a 
similar concentration range for Escherichia coli, Staphylococcus aureus, human 
mesenchymal stem cells (hMSCs), and peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs), 
i.e. 0.5 to 5 ppm for silver ions and 12.5 to 50 ppm for silver nanoparticles. 
For a better comparison, bacteria were cultivated both in Lysogeny broth medium 
(LB) and in Roswell Park Memorial Institute medium (RPMI)/10% fetal calf serum 
(FCS) medium, as the state of silver ions and silver nanoparticles may be 
different due to the presence of salts, and biomolecules like proteins. The 
effective toxic concentration of silver towards bacteria and human cells is 
almost the same.



  First, the authors call silver ACETATE “ionic.” This is BS. 



  Second, the authors equate nanoparticles of silver with ionic silver. This is 
also BS. Nano-ANYTHING significantly alters the properties of the substance, 
often causing it to behave in unpredictable and harmful ways.



  Either the authors are sloppy scientists, or they are deliberately trying to 
give Electrically Isolated Silver a bad name.



  Nenah



  Nenah Sylver, PhD

  author, the NEW Rife Handbook (2011)

  Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy (2004)

  VoiceBio and Biomodulator certification

  www.nenahsylver.com; www.rifehandbook.com