If I may interject....

Using the Hach silver chemistry, Bruce found that the digestion process, 
which involves all sorts of nasty stuff, produced erratic results with CS. 
 This was verified by a Hach tech rep. present at Bruce's lab.

They decided that the process works reliably without the digestion.  That 
is the method which I use to measure mg/L-PPM.  I think it is also the 
method used by Bob Berger.   Bob, Bruce, and myself have very close results 
with the same samples.

If someone is doing the Hach test with digestion, can I send you a sample 
to see how well they correlate.  I will reciprocate with your sample if you 
like.

I have yet to get an ISE [R&D funding limitations].   I think the "charge 
per cluster" theory is probably correct.  Has anyone ever discussed this in 
detail with an ISE manufacturer?

James Osbourne Holmes
[email protected]


-----Original Message-----
From:   Marshall Dudley [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:19 AM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        Re: CS>Graph comparison: ppm & conductivity.

Ivan Anderson wrote:

>  PPM reading was supplied by a silver Ion Selective Electrode.
> Water was Purified Water BP and read 1uS before electrolysis.

Prior to purchasing our spectrophotometer and silver kit, I check into 
using a
silver ion selective electrode for measuring ppm.  I was told that it 
measures
the number of ions (amount of charge) assuming the normal mobility of 
silver
ions, and that silver colloid would not produce a correct measurement due 
to
there typically being less charge on each particle than the number of atoms 
in
the particle, and due to the mobility being different than for one ion.

To use it properly one has to digest the silver so that you have silver
nitrate first, then use the probe on the residual silver nitrate.  This is
exactly the same process I have to go through with the spectrophotometer 
for
ppm measurements.

I was wanting to verify that you were indeed digesting the colloidal silver
before using the probe.  If so this is a very interesting set of curves.

Thanks,

Marshall


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