I'm glad you're having this discussion, folks, as I've been looking at
Dr. Wilson's page on yin/yang that Carol kindly posted, and it's hard to
reconcile a lot of it with what I'm understanding about what's healthy
and what's not. I get the impression (s)he's torturing things a bit to
force them into a western and/or scientific framework, and it's losing
something in the translation.

I'll check out a few more pages from Dr. Wilson's site, just to see if
it comes together more... And then check out these sources you've come
up with, Dan. 

Interesting stuff!

Thanks!

Mike D.

On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 12:58 -0600, Dan Nave wrote:
> I have to cite a source to have any credibility in this, so this is
> one I found on the net which is more in line with my understanding of
> yin and yang:
> 
> <http://www.tcmbasics.com/basics_yinyang.htm>
> “Generally, anything that is moving, ascending, bright, progressing,
> hyperactive, including functional disease of the body, pertains to
> yang.
> 
> <http://www.tcmbasics.com/basics_yinyang.htm>
> The characteristics of stillness, descending, darkness, degeneration,
> hypoactivity, including organic disease, pertain to yin.”
> 
> (Definition)
> <http://www.gsmcweb.com/?p=156>
> “Functional Symptoms vs. Organic Disease
> Many, if not most, health complaints are termed functional, meaning
> that no known associated organic or pathological tissue changes can be
> found by the physician investigating possible causes of the symptoms.
> Functional symptoms can include headaches, fatigue, insomnia,
> irritability, abdominal pain, indigestion, low back pain, or simply
> not feeling well.
> Organic or pathological disease are terms used to describe more
> advanced stages of disease that are accompanied by physical, cellular
> changes that can be identified by diagnostic testing. Examples of
> organic diseases include cancer, arthritis, heart disease, gastric
> ulcers, and emphysema.”
> 
> 
> Contradicting this is Dr Wilson’s description:
> 
> http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm
> “Yang tends to be more contracted, more dense, condensing, increasing
> in mass,”…” and often more physical.”  “Yang tends to be inward-moving
> or centripetal.  It is also generally downward-moving toward the
> center of the earth.“
> 
> “Yin tends to be more expanded, evaporating, less dense, more chaotic,
> less massive, and in some cases more ethereal.”  ““In contrast, yin
> tends to be more outward-moving, split apart or centrifugal.  It also
> tends to be upward moving away from the earth.”
> 
> 
> Then he gives a rule which is not supported in any interpretation of
> yin or yang that I know of, and then shows that is the case in about
> half of his examples, and not in the other half. So, not a great
> theory:
> 
> “Yang tends to be a lower frequency or slower moving waves, while yin
> tends to be a higher frequency of energy or faster moving waves of
> energy.  This is not always the case, but it is often true.”
> 
> Another bogus rule:
> “In contrast, yin tends to be more outward-moving, split apart or
> centrifugal.  It also tends to be upward moving away from the earth.”
> “For example, foods that grow up in the air on trees, such as fruits,
> are further away from the earth and this is one reason they tend to be
> more yin.  Root vegetables are much more yang, in part because they
> grow under the earth.”
> 
> 
> http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm
>       “What are yin and yang?  A general introduction to the concept
> is to understand them as follows:
> 
> •           Qualities of matter.  Yang tends to be more contracted,
> more dense, condensing, increasing in mass, warm with more internal
> heat, dryer and often more physical.
>                   Yin tends to be more expanded, evaporating, less
> dense, more chaotic, less massive, cold, dampand in some cases more
> ethereal.
>                   For example, water is more yin, while land is more
> yang.  The warm tropics are more yang, while the areas near the north
> and south poles are far more yin because they are cold.
> 
> •           Frequencies of energies.  Yang tends to be a lower
> frequency or slower moving waves, while yin tends to be a higher
> frequency of energy or faster moving waves of energy.  This is not
> always the case, but it is often true.
>                   For example, the color red is a lower frequency and
> more yang, while the color blue is a higher frequency and somewhat
> more yin.  Infrared is an even lower frequency and tends to be more
> yang than red, although infrared contains some frequencies that are
> yin as well, so this criteria is variable.
> 
> •           Directions of movement. Yang tends to be inward-moving or
> centripetal.  It is also generally downward-moving toward the center
> of the earth.
>                   In contrast, yin tends to be more outward-moving,
> split apart or centrifugal.  It also tends to beupward moving away
> from the earth.  Once again, this is not always true, but is often the
> case.
>                   For example, foods that grow up in the air on trees,
> such as fruits, are further away from the earth and this is one reason
> they tend to be more yin.  Root vegetables are much more yang, in part
> because they grow under the earth.”
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Maple Springs Farm
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Dan
> > what was your understanding/interpretation of yin and yang?
> > I musta missed it.
> >
> >
> > On 07.02.2013 12:49, Dan Nave wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm not an expert of course, but much of what he says about yin and
> >> yang does not seem to be consistent with my understanding of yin and
> >> yang.  It seems to be difficult to make generalities about yin and
> >> yang that don't appear contradictory at some point.
> >>
> >> Dan
> >>
> 
> 
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