Please disregard my unsubscribe notice!~ I have just signed up for another ISP to handle business. Thanks :) -----Original Message----- From: Cindy Powell <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 11:01 PM Subject: Re: CS>Colloid? was baking soda
>Dear Silver listers, >Please unsubscribe me fot the time being, as I am getting too busy to keep >up with the list. I hope to be back soon, and thanks to you all for the >informative and interesting postings. >Best regards, >Cindy >-----Original Message----- >From: Ivan Anderson <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 4:32 AM >Subject: CS>Colloid? was baking soda > > >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: Tim Cudzilo <[email protected]> >> >>>snip< >>> Eventually, (and hopefully) this "list" will recognize the the >>maximum >>> effacy of >>> suspended silver solutions is in the charge of the solution. >> >>Oh man, where have you been? Do you think we don't realise that by >>sending a current through a couple of silver electrodes immersed in >>water that charged silver particles enter the water. The Ag+ particles >>give the solution its charge. Chemical reactions take place between >>charged atoms and complexes. >> >> > I don't read all the tripe, but I have yet to see any reference to >>an >>> electroscope. >> >>Thats because, like you, we have moved on from 4th grade science. If >>you want to know if your solution has a charge, dip your >>millivoltmeter electrodes in it. >> >>> Like it or not folks, finely divided silver IS sensitive to light. >> >>Not strictly true. Certain wavelengths of light have enough energy to >>cause a change in charge state of silver ions. >> >>> Internally, ANY silver is better than NO silver. >>> >>> CS as you refer to it, is not a colloid at all. >>> >>> Any silver particle in a suspension of pure H2o is heavier than the >>> suspending medium. >>> >>> In lay terms, a true colloid would be a jar full of pink fish eggs. >>If one >>> were to pick a few >>> eggs, inject them with a blue color and a grain of sand to make them >>> heavier than the rest, >>> and put them back, - that would be a true colloid. >> >>Are you making this up? >>Shaving cream is a colloidal system, as is beer, milk, mayonaise. >>The definition of a colloidal system is "small 'particles' of one >>substance distributed more or less uniformly throughout another. This >>latter phase is continuous whilst the 'particles' are discontinuous. >>The continuous phase may be a gas, liquid, or solid whilst the >>discontinuous phase may also be a gas, liquid or solid. The system >>will be colloidal if the 'particles' are sufficiently small and that >>usually means less than about 1um in at least one important >>dimension." - Introduction to Modern Colloid Science...Hunter. >> >>Whilst colloidal silver systems, properly called silver sols or >>colloidal sols, approach the dimensions of true solutions and exhibit >>little or no difference from true solutions, they are regarded as >>colloidal if the size of the particle falls between 1 - 1000 nm. >> >>> They would stay in apparent suspension. even though they were >>heavier ( >>> because of the sand), because the slight increase in weight is not >>enough >>> to displace pink fish eggs around them. If the container were >>vibrated, >>> they would eventually reach the bottom. Gravity rules. >> >>That is because fish eggs do not fit the colloidal dimension. >>The particles in colloidal silver will be denser at the bottom of the >>solution than at the top, due to gravity, by a very small degree. >>You have no understanding of the complex interaction of forces at work >>which keep particles suspended in a collodal system. >> >>> Very fine suspensions of silver will all eventually settle out. The >>silver >>> particles bump into water molecules, like bumpers on a pinball >>machine. >>> The smaller the particles, the longer it takes. It will happen >>eventually. >> >>This is probably true, but I have litres of light yellow cs that have >>no fall out after 15 months and still retain the same charge. >> >>> If the silver particles have like charges however, they will >>continually >>> repel each other, >>> or "swim". As long as they remain charged, they are viable >>"swimmers". >>> >>> The nature of things is that all charged "things" seek equilibrium. >>> >>> Equilibrium can be reached by giving up a charge, to reach >>stability. >> >>Stability or equalibrium does not require the giving up of charge. >> >>> If a photon (light), strikes a particle, that impact is sufficient >>to >>> change (or in this case nullify) >>> a positive charge on a silver particle. >> >>A photon is what? Why would this 'photon' strike a silver particle and >>not a water molecule through which it must travel? >>Far ultraviolet light has enough energy to alter the water in such a >>way as to have an effect on the positive silver charge(reduction). >>Incidental light does not. >> >>> At that point, it becomes just a hunk of silver. >>> >>> Everyone in this group should be familiar with the mechanics of >>oxidation. >> >>Positively charged silver particles are already oxidised (lost an >>electron). >> >>> In many ways, what I have seen in this group is exactly akin to >>worming >>> your dog. >>> >>> You eat enough to kill ( or slow down ) the offender, but not enough >>to >>> kill the host. >> >>> Which, is fine. Your immune system needs all the help it can get. >> >>Phew! >> >>> You would all do well to test the charge of your "solutions". >> >>With an electroscope? >> >>Regards - Ivan >> >> >> >>-- >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >>To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >>[email protected] -or- [email protected] >>with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >>To post, address your message to: [email protected] >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >> >> >
