I think it was Brooks Bradley who spearheaded the homemade lipo C. I believe he had the microscope to show home made was about equal quality to commercial. Brooks seems high integrity. Of course, thats a first pass judgement....home made may be worse, equal or even better than commercial lipo. What we dont know is if simple micelles are as good or better than lipo, or even if coconut oil and C is as good. The tests arent in. Commercial ultrasonication can create a whole new chemistry with its powerful machines. This chemistry would have to proven superior for whatever reason. Im talking mainly about the chemistry of ultra sonic cavitation bubbles which can reach 5000 deg and huge pressures. Remember that one is always relying on and being swayed by profit minded commercial hype

Start simple, say blending in a blender, then invest in a course of commercially made lipo and see if you can feel a difference. In my mind, getting high quality lecithin is more important than lipo size and quantity, since 99% of it is digested at the gut brush border, one way or the other

On 3/13/2016 5:23 AM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
apparently the home-made item is NOT the same as the one made by Live-On labs, 
whose scientists have tested it.  I can’t see why they would lie because they 
would be found out easily I would have thought.  Also apparently, Dr Mercola 
(who I respect) makes a liposome vitamin C which is again, NOT liposomal at 
all.  dee

On 10 Mar 2016, at 17:24, Ron <[email protected]> wrote:

Sounds right to me. If he can be so wrong about IV C then his credibility is 
pretty much shot.
Even Dr. Mercola is on the the bandwagon with Liposomal D. But then, although 
Mercola does have a lot of good info, he seems to be  primarily engaged in 
marketing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSCv5_41j88
Mercola shows in detail how he says it works but offers no study to back it up.

On 3/10/2016 9:10 AM, Max wrote:
I like Levy.....that said, if you look at the studies, only perhaps 1% of 
liposomes get through intact.  The ones that do are quickly attacked by the 
immune system.  Liposomes delivering their contents to cells by direct 
'melding' is a myth.    A 5x or greater absorption effeciency is also a myth.  
So we are left with the anecdotal evidence that liposome C  works wonders.   
Note that Levy DOES in fact promote the Livon product.  My feeling is that 
adding lecithin to vitamin C in a blender allows essentially the same digestion 
and biological effect.   Ive tried both and can tell no difference.   For me, 
the main thing is getting the really good lecithen.  I cant stand the regular 
soy stuff.  There is also evidence it isnt healthy.  Organic sunflower lecithin 
seems to be the ticket.   The secret to absorbing a lot of Vit C is taking it 
at short intervals.    Vit C loading of the body by IV  is many, many times 
greater than by liposome C.    This is perhaps Levy's most egregious error

On 3/10/2016 8:14 AM, Ron wrote:
Thank you for mentioning Liposomal. I have never heard of it before.

Exposing the truth about liposomal nutrients [FAVORABLE]
http://www.peakenergy.com/articles/nh20140411/Exposing-the-truth-about-liposomal-nutrients/




On 3/8/2016 10:48 PM, mk wrote:
Is there a bare minimum ultrasonic unit I can get on ebay that will do the job 
other than Freight Harbor? They're basically all made in China - so am looking 
at those right now.

And - why would lipo vitamin c be the better option for someone with 
kidney/liver issues?

Thanks - Joy


        
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