A PPM meter will not detect non conductive molecules. There is more going on in the electrolysis process than just silver and citric acid [add in mon-atomic oxygen and hydrogen? Silver oxide and hydroxide? ] and I have not been successful in making an acceptable citrate product.
Ode On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Peter Deckers <[email protected]> wrote: > Anyone? I hope i didn't scare everyone away :P > > Op maandag 21 maart 2016 heeft Peter Deckers <[email protected]> > het volgende geschreven: > >> Hi everyone, >> I am a "long time listener and first time caller" here :-)) >> >> First of all i want to thank all the experts here helping out the less >> gifted in the field of chemistry, physics and electronics like me :-) >> >> I have been reading as much as i could here involving the subjects i am >> interested in, but i am afraid i still need some help if possible. >> >> I have been suffering over 10 years from multiple extremely resistant >> forms of skin problems like seborrheic dermatitis and athletes foot to name >> a few, and tried just about everything on the planet for it. >> One of the things i have been experimenting with lately is silver citrate. >> I have multiple silver generators at home, from very small like the >> silver pulser, to much larger like the silvergen, to a hvac system that >> also produce gold.(and claims to produce mainly colloids instead of ions) >> >> Anyway, i would really like to try and make the "original" silver >> dihydrate citrate myself, because buying it in the usa is already >> expensive, but then shipping it to my country would double the costs.. >> Unfortunately my lvac systems are current limited so the high ppm stuff >> won't work. (Although the sota silver pulser seems to continue working >> during extremely high ppm citrate solutions, the numbers dont add up to me. >> F.e. I started with 3140ppm distilled water/citrate solution, but when i >> used the silver pulser in that, the ppm didn't increase. >> Which if i read correctly here is because the silver combines with the >> citrate to form a new molecule that doesn't increase ppm because the silver >> isn't and extra ingredient because it combines. >> But it could also be because my ppm meter was broken (thereafter), but >> soon i will have my hanna PH/ppm/EC meter repaired so i hope that can help >> with analysing what is happening. >> >> Because the electrolysing of citrate solution seemed a bit challenging to >> me to know exactly what is happening, i also tried to just make ionic >> silver with my silvergen and just add citrate afterwards.(if that even >> works? Because if so why are there somany patents about the electrolysing >> citric acid method if it would be totally unneccesary?) >> >> Again if i calculated correctly, which i am pretty sure i didn't, for my >> 10ppm silver i would have to add approximately 3ppm citrate in theory, >> right? (So the new solution would have a 13ppm total) >> I experimented with all kind of different citrate solutions and although >> it did seem to help my skin more then silver alone, it wasn't enough.. >> So that is why i am trying to find the easiest and/or most reliable way >> to produce the full strenght silver citrate. >> >> Another route i was thinking of is to just buy silver citrate and >> dissolve that in citric acid. >> But again i am not sure if i understand the math. >> I read the following here: >> "Silvercitrate solubility is 0.28gr/liter = 280ppm (this works out to be >> 58ppm of silver)" >> I dont understand this because as far as i can find silver citrate has >> 63% silver content, so i would think 63% of 280ppm would mean 176ppm silver >> instead of 58ppm) >> >> But please ignore all my questions and mistakes if someone could just >> tell me the best way(s) to produce the exact same as the silverion2400 >> product, which is supposed to have a MIC against malassezia furfur of 0.25% >> Does that mean that silverion2400 can be diluted 400 times to still >> comply with the tested MIC? >> >> I apologize for my incoherent and perhaps confusing writing, but i wanted >> the experts here to see all the things that go on in my mind :-) and the >> (amature) level i am still on concerning this. >> >> Any help would be very much aprreciated! >> All the best, >> Peter >> >> >>
