Mike would not approve of people making up shit as if it was real.

Stop posting conspiracy theories as science.

Yes, get the damned vaccine, it saves way more lives than it hurts. Until
that happens it's never going away and I have to stay away from you morons
that think you will have magnetic arms and all the other lies.

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:05 AM Linda Ellis <[email protected]> wrote:

> Speaking only for myself, the problem that I see as unsolvable is, there
> is no way to correct the situation with the Troll.
>
> Max asked her very politely to articulate what ALTERNATIVE methods she
> suggests, or is working with, to address the Wuhan Virus.  Her response was
> to figuratively flip him off, saying something like "I don't engage with
> people like you."  This kind of comment doesn't add anything to the cause
> of this list, which is to explore alternatives to the pharmaceutical model
> which dominates medical care today.
>
> I followed up on Max's request, asking the Troll to provide information
> about ALTERNATIVES that she is experimenting with.  I believe that post did
> make the list, although I only saw it in comments by others that included
> it.  I never saw a response from the Troll that addressed my request,
> either.
>
> While I've deleted all her posts, and am diligently sending any new posts
> that sneak through to my Spam folder, my recollection is that her posts
> advocate strongly for the vaccines, and viciously attack anybody who
> presents information that questions the vaccines' efficacy or safety.  She
> doesn't dispute these posts in any kind of positive, constructive manner -
> the way Max addresses various posts.  She uses invectives - everybody who
> doesn't believe as she does is "a nutjob," or stupid, or dangerous, or
> whatever.  I recall one post where she seemed happy that people who were
> resisting the vaccines would die and be out of the way - her only regret
> was that "they" would take others with them.
>
> Years ago, when Mike was involved with this group, he was very good at
> discipline and control - allowing disagreements, but keeping them civil and
> on track.  I do recall one woman who behaved a lot like our current Troll,
> and when Mike was unable to rein in her insulting attacks, I believe he
> gave her an ultimatum.  She chose not to moderate her behavior, so she was
> gone.  I get the sense that this current Troll will not take any hints and
> moderate herself, but there's apparently no way to stop her.
>
> Yes, I'm diligently putting her in my Spam folder, but she still sneaks
> through.  Hopefully, the new list moderators will have better control over
> this type of thing.
>
> There's a second reason to move over - on this list, I don't get my own
> posts to the list.  This is confusing.  Did my post make it, but my subject
> matter wasn't of interest to anyone in the group, so nobody responded?  Did
> I violate some protocol, so the post never made it?  I'm hoping that I
> don't experience the same problem on the new list, and can see when my
> messages are posted.  At least I'll know if what I have to contribute is of
> interest to anybody.
>
> Thanks for your consideration.
>
> Linda
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Neville Munn" <[email protected]>
> *Date: *Sat, Jul 31, 2021 9:59 pm
> *To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Subject: *Re: CS>Unsubscribe -- why?
> Why would you want to leave?  Just because there are some toe rags
> who/her/him/it/them infiltrate and cause a little
> inconvenience occasionally, so be it, that's the life of Social Platforms.
>
> One gets plenty of stuff on the internet, (rubbish, scams, adverts etc
> etc), one only has to ignore/delete what one doesn't want to see/read, the
> same applies here, one cannot get away from it, and one will never get away
> from it, so just live with it, they don't control your life, or do they?
> They don't control my life that's for sure, I'm bigger than that.
>
> The one person in question here, him/her/it/them don't control my life,
> people see or read plenty of rubbish, so what?
>
> Leaving was/is the plan, like the Great Reset, but, at least one can
> control it if one wishes to.
>
> I know the end game, that makes me prepared, I can still think and reason.
>
> Conclusion:  Nope, it doesn't faze me I'm afraid, I will still stay here,
> there are plenty of buttons on my keyboard, eazy peazy.
>
> N.
>
>
> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Linda Ellis <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, 1 August 2021 11:00 AM
> *To:* [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: CS>Unsubscribe -- why?
>
> I can't speak for James, but I've been around (just silent) for a long
> time - maybe 15 years, I don't recall.
>
> I'm leaving this list and going to the new list because I'm tired of the
> Troll Mol, and I have the sense that the new list will not accept her, so
> things should be more sane over there.
>
> I haven't tried to unsubscribe here yet, but I have been working to move
> the Troll Mol into my Spam folder.
>
>
>