You know, I'm beginning to think Ted Kaczinski was right!

"James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

> Microwave?   See: http://www.dhcour.coe.fr/eng/JUDGMENTS/HERTEL%20ENG.html
> James Osbourne Holmes
> [email protected]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Dick Jaffe [SMTP:[email protected]]
> Sent:   Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:19 PM
> To:     [email protected]
> Subject:        Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
>
> 1 1/2 hours??  What kind of power source are you using?  What gauge .999 fine
> silver wire?  I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to make a 24 Oz. 
> jar
> of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using my 30 volt
> homemade DC generator.  The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer reflects a
> viable CS solution.  It may not be scientifically precise, but it sure works.
>
> Dick
>
> Robert Ratliff wrote:
>
> > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the same amount of
> > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles are larger.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:[email protected]]
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
> > >
> > >
> > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I
> > > make my CS in a
> > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar.  I can't recall now who
> > > gave me that
> > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop.  My 10 minute
> > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky.
> > >
> > > 2001 TV VCR wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dick,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the tip.  I have tried the drop ( I used
> > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS
> > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow.  The
> > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge).
> > > >
> > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix
> > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be
> > > > formed.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone want to comment on this?
> > > >
> > > > Bil
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Dick Jaffe <[email protected]>
> > > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge
> > > >
> > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into the
> > > > heated
> > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes.  I've been
> > > doing that for
> > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in color, in
> > > > about
> > > > > 10 minutes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Fred wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon
> > > > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Bil
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as
> > > > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the
> > > > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn
> > > > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact
> > > > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions
> > > > > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating uses
> > > > > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and
> > > > > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more
> > > > > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge
> > > > > > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles into
> > > > > > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes
> > > > > > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no crystals!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > [email protected] (took a day off from work today!)
> > > > > >
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