A discharged TV "tube" (CRT) will unfortunately
charge back up to as high as 1,000 volts even
when it is sitting by itself (such as on a shelf)
outside of the TV!   After a couple of big shocks
I no longer let it kick me on my but.  Most of that
is caused by fear.  Instead I pull my arm back.
Lot less dangerous than head or back injuries.

Regarding HV CS.  These transformers are
deadly.  I'm sure that most of you know this.
With a capability of 30mA there is more than
enough to do you in.  This is why I am very leery
about using this method.  What could be worse
that possibly contacting 5 or 10,000 volts with
wet hands?

Bil



----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 10:32 PM
Subject: Re: CS>For the HV experts - SHOCK HAZZARD


> I've touched the anode on a "discharged" TV tube. It didn't clear any
viruses
> but it knocked me on my butt... Watch out for those stray capacitance's.
>
> Andy
>
> In a message dated 12/07/1999 9:13:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [email protected] writes:
>
>  The problem is that at high voltages even the wires can have a
capacitance to
>  infinity, and although the supply may be limited to 2 mA, a spark
discharge
> of a
>  few thousand volts from just a few picofarad capacitor can deliver amps
for a
>  few nanoseconds or microseconds.  I have never killed myself with this,
but
> did
>  kill my digital ampmeter that way.
>
>  Marshall
>
>  2001 TV VCR wrote:
>
>  > I guess I should have mentioned that I
>  > was only planning on shocking him if it
>  > would be safe.  It is well known that 2mA
>  > (two thousandths of an Amp) is not
>  > considered dangerous when applied to
>  > the body (externally).
>  >
>  > And if I did do this it would only be for a
>  > second or so, and only if experts in the
>  > field of electromedicine, etc agreed that
>  > there would be no risk.  I have been
>  > shocked by 5,000 to 25,000 Volts DC
>  > many times (during 30 years) while
>  > working on TV's.
>  >
>  > Bil
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > From: Jeff Gilman <[email protected]>
>  > To: <[email protected]>
>  > Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 6:16 PM
>  > Subject: Re: CS>For the HV experts - SHOCK HAZZARD
>  >
>  > > Boy, I woudn't do this!  What if his heart fails, he is already in
poor
>  > > health!  I agree, talk about setting yourself up for trouble!  I am
sure
>  > > your intentions are great, but your taking
>  > > a chance on hurting him and you getting blamed for it
>  > >
>  > > Jeff
>  > > -----Original Message-----
>  > > From: Charles King <[email protected]>
>  > > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>  > > Date: Tuesday, December 07, 1999 9:28 AM
>  > > Subject: Re: CS>For the HV experts - SHOCK HAZZARD
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > >Talk about setting yourself up for a lawsuit.................
>  > > >BTW, read your first paragraph again.
>  > > >Some people are ill because they choose that experience for this
>  > lifetime!
>  > > >
>  > > > Chuck
>  > > >"Life's tough. It's tougher if you're stupid"
>  > > >John Wayne
>  > > >
>  > > >On Mon, 6 Dec 1999 22:46:46 -0800, "2001 TV  VCR" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>  > > >
>  > > >>Hi
>  > > >>
>  > > >>Trying to help a friend with MS.  He is
>  > > >>unable to walk without a walker. He can't
>  > > >>ever seem to get around to using the
>  > > >>Beck blood electrifier or the "Rife" type
>  > > >>frequency generator which I built for him.
>  > > >>
>  > > >>I have heard that some people have been
>  > > >>cured of lyme and other conditions by
>  > > >>acidentally contacting an electric fence.
>  > > >>Quick high voltage shock and no more
>  > > >>viruses!
>  > > >>
>  > > >>He is willing to do something like this and
>  > > >>I am planning on hooking him up to a
>  > > >>television flyback (hi voltage) transformer.
>  > > >>The voltage is 25,000 DC at about 2 mA.
>  > > >>
>  > > >>Since there is not enough current available
>  > > >>to cause tissue damage it seems like
>  > > >>this would be safe.  Has anyone heard of
>  > > >>someone be seriously hurt with very low
>  > > >>current HV DC.
>  > > >>
>  > > >>Bil
>  > > >
>  > > >
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