HI w8,

The Hach chemicals are set up for light of 560 nm.  The Hanna uses an LED 
at 550.  It is a dedicated single test colorimeter or spectrophotometer.

The Hanna chemicals do not work for CS, or have not been reported to do so. 
 With the color being the same, that makes me suspect that the color 
generated by the reagents is probably the same and therefore, the chemistry 
is the same.  Does anyone have some of the Hanna reagents who will report 
their composition and the times for each step?

The Hach chemicals do work for CS.

I have proposed that the Hach reagent set may work with the Hanna 
instrument.

To find out if this is true, It will cost someone with the Hanna instrument 
about 60 FRNs for the Hach reagent set; some time obtaining the Hach lab 
handbook and some more time  adapting the Hach procedure to the Hanna 
instrument.  Most of the time will be spent generating a graph plotting 
 known concentrations of silver---I use precision dilutions of ASC  grade 
silver nitrate---against the amount of light absorbed by the sample.

If someone will send me a meter for the trial, I will do it, and return the 
meter.  Alternatively, I will sell at cost + shipping enough Hach sets to 
anyone who will do the basic setup.  The tests cost about 0.60 FRNs each, 
and I suspect it will take about 10 or 15 of them to make the tests.

The main advantage I see for the Hach instrument is that it is probably 
impossible to get out of calibration.  A standard spec. has delicate 
optical and mechanical components which are easily bumped out of alignment. 
 The overall cost to set up an Ag lab will only be 250 less than buying a 
used spec. with the needed specifications because of the cost of the 
precision glassware required for the procedure.

There are several other methods of measuring Ag concentration; AA specs and 
visible light specs are just the most convenient, practical and low-cost 
ways to do it.

James Osbourne Holmes
[email protected]
FTNWO


-----Original Message-----
From:   w8w8 [SMTP:[email protected]]
Sent:   Saturday, June 24, 2000 12:19 PM
To:     [email protected]
Subject:        Re: CS>HI 93737 Silver Meter

Seems like there are spectrophotometer that use reagents that work and
there are spectrophotometer that use reagents that did not work.  It has
been said that James Holmes and Robert L. Berger each have
spectrophotometers, and that is one of only two methods of correctly
measuring ppm (ug/ml).  (The other is with an I.S.E.(ion specific
electrode) which Ivan has).  Why would James and Roberts
spectrophotometers, work and the Hanna HI 93737 Silver Meter not work?

Erwin (In quest of a meter to measaure my silver)

Trem wrote:

>  Hi,
>



Trem wrote:

>  Hi,
>
> We tried one and it did not work with colloidal silver. Was told it
> was for use with dissolved silver such as in waste treatment plants
> etc. The sample measured the same as the blank or as much as 25% of
> the readings done on our CS by Kimball Labs as I recall. Would have
> been a good way to test if it had worked.  All readings were not
> repeatable and were way off the mark.
>
> We even tried digesting the silver in nitric acid to see if that would
> help.  It didn't.




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