In a message dated 9/4/00 6:16:54 AM EST, [email protected] writes:

<< Subj:     CS>electrolysing water - was something else
 Date:  9/4/00 6:16:54 AM EST
 From:  [email protected] (Ivan Anderson)
 Reply-to:  [email protected]
 To:    [email protected]
 
 This old chestnut again Roger!
 
 I doubt whether the hydronium ions are energised in some way, there are
 so few of them in pure water... perhaps in the electrolysis of the water
 the hydroxyl portion arrange themselves adjacent to the silver ions
 leaving a surfeit of H+ for the pH meter to measure.
 
 Ivan. >>

Ivan: Ah yes, back to my old chestnut. Pure water will have no more hydroxyl 
ions than hydronium ions. So there is equal likelihood of having associations 
between statically charged CS and either of these two ions.

After months of on and off discussion and suggestions as to what species 
could be lowering the pH, and then determining that such species were 
essentially absent, it is highly unlikely that there is something else in my 
HVAC CS water that is lowering the pH. Since a pH meter is a DIRECT 
measurement of hydronium ion ACTIVITY NOT CONCENTRATION, and the fact that no 
other species is present in high enough concentration to lower the pH by 
itself, we are left with two possibilities:

Possibility #1: The CS itself is polarizing the water molecules which results 
in a higher activity coefficient of the hydronium ions. However, this 
conclusion does not fit well for two reasons. First, I have seen pH 
measurements of 4 - 4.5 for CS concentrations in my HVAC product of only 1 
PPM. So there does not appear to be enough CS present to polarize sufficient 
water molecules to lower the pH to 4 - 4.5. Second, high quality LVDC CS 
(clear product with only a slight Tyndall) does NOT exhibit a significant 
reduction in pH. 

Possibility#2: The high voltage itself (~10,000 VAC) has lowered the pH. I 
believe we are left to conclude that the water has been restructured, and 
that we should consider designing experiments to further substantiate this 
tentative conclusion. Thus, my interest in electrolyzed water. Roger


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