--- Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> wrote:
> Steve & Jackie Young wrote:
>
> > I also don't understand how his proposed method
> will make fine quality small
> > sized colloids. If high PPM are generated in only
> 3 minutes, than an awful
> > lot of current (several hundred milliamps?) was
> used which likely will
> > result in large particles.
>
> Particle size goes up with current, down with
> voltage. If you assume that they
> are both linear (which they probably are not, but
> for simplicity sake), then if
> we assume that at 9 volts 1 mA is good, then at
> 5,000 volts then slightly over
> 1/2 amp would be just as good. And the process
> should be slightly over 500
> times faster. The big problem would be temperature,
> which would rise quite
> quickly with that energy input.
>
> I use 10 KV (AC) at 100 to 125 mA
Is this 100 ma on the output side??? The would be 8 or
9 amps consumption from the 120 volt AC wall supply.
Are you using NST's in parallel?
myself to produce
> very high quality CS at the
> rate of 4 gallons per hour, which which is 20 quarts
> in 60 minutes, and is a
> quart every 3 minutes, the same as reported by
> Duncan Crow. I suspect that the
> main difference is that I operate mine at optimum
> full current continuously
> (since it is a flow through process), but that
> Duncan starts out with much lower
> current sine his is a batch process, thus requiring
> a higher current in the end,
> but the average current over the 3 minutes is
> probably about the same. And I
> use AC which is gives 100% silver utilization.
>
> Marshall
Thanx for this state of the art analysis, I did not
realize that these things had progressed so far, but
with the volume of silver list posts, I miss quite a
bit of info. Concerning the binary resonant system
(BRS) approach, {mentioned quickly, the BRS supplies a
voltage rise by resonance, whereas the conventional
processes supply a voltage rise by ferromagnetic
transformation using transformers}, I have two options
here as two forms of single phased BRS were
constructed to date. These were a high voltage, low
amperage system: and what I described in the last
post, a high amperage lower voltage system. Incredibly
I have now made a third BRS applied to 3 phase. This
has been tested with a 3 phase converted car
alternator and yeilded results closely matching to
theory. These can be found at my BRS messageboard. Now
the alternator can now supply the current needed to
make colloidal silver water by using the same method
employed in the High amperage BRS previously
discussed. , but I need some advise here.
First I should describe the high voltage BRS. It
consists of 2 56 Henry Air core coils: massive
monsters of 9 miles of 23 gauge wire containing 20,000
winds and weighing 80 lb.s and having 1000 ohms each.
Because they have the higher resistance, this an
example of a very safe BRS. It can safely be resonated
at 60 hz because at series resonance it will never
conduct so much amperage as to start melting the
insulation of wires. In the last post I described such
a catastrophic BRS version using a coil system
containing only 4 ohms. It might be feasible to use
such as system to make the product, but for safe
opeartion it had to be stepped down to a 30 volt
input, instead of the wall voltage operation. The high
voltage BRS will produce 2/3 inch lightening volts
between two needles when driven at 440 volts,
producing an estimated 10,000+ volts. The normal
operation is at 120 volt household AC, producing about
3000 volts at open potential, consuming about 175 ma
from the wall. If I now short those connections
only.025 ma will be consumed from the wall. But across
that short 5 ma will be measured. This is because the
BRS is a hybrid series/parallel resonant circuit. It
is configured as a switch that when open gives series
resonance and an internal rise of voltage with respect
to its input, and when closed becomes parallel
resonant with the different effect of giving a
resonant rise of amperage relative to its input. Thus
in this scenario I can use two silver wires,connect
them as a short between the coils, and no more than 5
ma will conduct through the water because that
conduction is current limited by the great impedance
of the system. However moving these electrodes far
apart in the solution should also cause their
respective potentials to rise to enable that minimum 5
ma conduction.
Now in the alternator 3 phase BRS, I would use 3
silver wires connected to a water sample, again with
the widest separation of electrodes to create the
highest voltage on those electrodes. A measurement of
the trisectional short amperage shows 110 ma. This
means that the electrodes should rise to the necessary
voltage to enable that conduction. So my question
simply put is which is better, a process using a
larger amperage across the solution, or a process that
only uses a small amperage, but has the capacity to
act at a very large potential provided the electrodes
are widely separated. My current thinking favors the
second approach that can use a higher voltage.
Sincerely HDN
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Binary Resonant Systemhttp://www.insidetheweb.com/mbs.cgi/mb124201
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