Oh yea, I agree in that, what I "take" from others with fear, guilt,
intimidation or manipulation only appears to benefit me. Likewise with
conning them into "giving". [Christmas?  Gods money?]
 We could call good greed "incentive"..just words in any case.
 I do what I want, I make what I want to see, therefore, profit is a side
effect. It's form is not always predictable.

 I do take issue with manipulating a persons fears to sell products.
 It's like suggesting that someone is sick, then offering the solution.
 Many CS websites do just that.
 Suggestion is a very powerful item, especially to a victim mentality.
 I prefer to think of illness and health as something that "I'm doing" and
the reasons don't matter.
 After all, reasons are used to justify and anything can be justified.
 For instance, saying that "you made me sick" justifies the illness and
places the power to heal it in some one elses hands....the same hands that
made you sick?
 The only difference between reasons and excuses is that one is acceptable
to the one who accepts them as valid.

 "If it costs nothing, it must not be worth anything." [sound familier?]
 Sometimes I think I'll open another website that sells the exact same
thing in the exact same way for twice as much...just to see which one sells
more.

I think I'll be amazed..oops, already amazed...too late.

Is it reasonable to be afraid of someone who does exactly what I do to make
them afraid of me?
Ode Coyote
[Ken]


At 11:02 PM 11/19/00 GMT, you wrote:
>Hi Ode,
>
>On Sun, 19 Nov 2000 09:34:50 -0500, Ode Coyote <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>  I don't know what Ann Rands definition of "enlightened selfishness" is.
>> That which benefits all, benefits me as well..is my definition.
>
>That's sorta backwards.  :)  What benefits you, benefits others.
>
>What I call "good greed" is what capitalism is all about.  People who
>work honestly to benefit only themselves, must also benefit everyone
>they deal with, both directly and indirectly.  
>
>Another way of saying that is:  If what you produce is useful to other
>people, you benefit from the production and other benefit from your
>producing it (because they want/need what you produce and are
>voluntarily giving you part of what they produce for the product).
>
>> I make CS generators. 
>
>If you make CS generators to sell, then you are greedy (that is, you
>want money or something for your efforts).  That your CS generators
>help others is incidental to your greed, but not incidental to those
>who want a CS generator.  
>
>IOW, your greed benefits others.
>
>This is true of all greed -- assuming a voluntary exchange of products
>or money.
>
>Let's say the demand for your CS generators exceeds what you can
>produce.  Then you have to hire others to help produce the CS
>generators -- again benefitting others.  The "capital" you invest in
>parts and supplies to make the CS generators makes you a capitalist
>(someone who uses capital to produce income).
>
>The key to "good greed" is *voluntary* exchange of products and money,
>in a marketplace unfettered by external (government) controls.
>
>-- Dean -- from (almost) Duh Moyn  (CDP, KB0ZDF)
>
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