Certainly Elaine... You can also reference the following URL which has added safety information that I feel is important in cases where a severe lung condition is being "treated".
http://silverdata.20m.com/nebulizers.html I probably should go in change the name part of this email addy to my name! Jason Eaton ----- Original Message ----- From: elaine davis <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 3:47 AM Subject: Re: CS>Personal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use > A.V.R.A---I don't know what your name or e-mail address is, but would you > give me permission to pass your personal experience here on to others who > would appreciate reading this? Is an oxygen nebulizer a regular nebulizer? > Thank you-whomever you are. Elaine > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "A.V.R.A" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:10 AM > Subject: CS>Personal Experience Update on Nebulizer/Humidifier Use > > > > Greetings all! > > > > Many of you might remember a little over a month ago the immediate onset > of > > a lung condition I described to the group. This has been the most severe > > illness I personally have experienced thusfar in life. I remember one > > person writing, telling me that I must have a death wish for not taking > > myself in to the nearest hospital. > > > > To refresh, one moment I was in perfect ( apparent ) health, the next > moment > > I experienced an incredible pain in the lower lung, right lobe. Within > six > > hours from this first pain, I went from perfectly fine to literally unable > > to walk. My wife begged me to let her take me to the hospital. I > refused. > > At this time, I could feel the fluid building up in this lung, and I knew > > that it was enough to demand a chest tube. I had NO immune system > response. > > No temperature, no loss of appetite, no weight loss, NOTHING. Since I've > > often followed Hospitals 2000 ( now 2001 I'm sure ) yearly hospital > > infection reports and their compiled statistics, I figured in THIS case it > > was a Bad Idea to go to a hospital. With an incredible reduction in the > > oxygen level in my own blood, and with my immune system apparently on a > > vacation, I didn't want to take the risk. > > > > I remember sitting alone that night, unable to lie down because I would > not > > be able to take a breath. If I sat perfectly still for about ten minutes, > > it felt as if I were completely healthy. If I raised my arm or stood to > > walk, I would immediately become weaker than I'd ever been in this life. > > Every thought was focused on taking a breath, until I sat still long > enough > > to feel better. > > > > I can say with all honesty that I felt on the virge of death. I had to > deal > > both with this fear, and my own personal choice. Having conquered the > fear > > that night, I did not experience it again. However, my oxygen tank was > > empty, and various methods that I attempted the next morning had no > effect. > > I used Eucalytpus oil to help with my airways, and somehow managed to get > > the oxygen tank filled that afternoon. > > > > That night, I was fairly desperate for air, but not as desperate as I > would > > become the next morning. In my mind, viewing my own state of being, I > felt > > that there was a greater fluid buildup in my lungs ( both now ), however, > my > > lung span and the amount of oxygen I was getting seemed to be about the > > same, relatively speaking. I used my colloidal silver solution and gave > my > > first try at the oxygen nebulizer that night. > > > > It wasn't until the following morning that I realized that the nebulizer > use > > of the night before did no good whatsoever. I had used the nebulizer many > > times before with healthy lungs, and trying to use with this condition was > > COMPLETELY different. > > > > While it seemed that my lung condition remained about the same, my state > of > > health was not. I assume the lack of oxygen was taking it's toll, and I > was > > weakening, trembling even. > > > > This prompted a more whole-hearted effort with the nebulizer. To date, no > > fever, no loss of appetite, no cough response, no "aching", no changes in > my > > elimination system - everything indicated either an incredibly reduced > > immune system response, or none at all. I have a very fast burning > > metabolism, and this probably more than anything kept me going. > > > > So, on this morning, I determined that I needed to get the colloidal > silver > > to the lower lungs, no matter how painful this might be. I'd already made > > peace with my "maker" so to speak. The first two inhalations failed. I > > learned I had to slowly empty out my lungs, then starve them for a bit > > before breathing the CS mist in. The EXACT first time I accomplished this > > properly, I started to feel the effects. > > > > In all honesty, I don't know how many minutes passed between that first > > "true breath" and the extreme reaction. I guess about four minutes. The > > reaction was the most "violent" reaction I've had to anything in my life. > I > > don't know how I managed to take a breath when the effect started. There > > was a rush to the head, an extreme pain to the neck ( this I only noticed > > with hindsight ). One moment I was sitting on the floor, contemplating > > using the nebulizer again while trying to breath, the next, BAM! The > > coughing reaction was incredible to the point I must have been purple > faced, > > my veins were elevated like long plateaus, and I really thought if I could > > have choked up my stomach, I would have. > > > > This lasted somewhere around 15 minutes. From that point forward, it was > > all downhill. I only used the nebulizer, if I remember correctly, once > more > > MUCH later that day. The second reaction was similar but nowhere near > that > > of the first. I regained lung capacity. By the next day, I was able to > > function. > > > > By the day after that, I was feeling well enough to stop the nebulizer > > treatment to see how well my body was responding. It did not improve, and > > MIGHT have been starting to get worse again. I played with various usage > > times and amounts, with an ultrasonic humidifier ( I believe the oxygen > > nebulizer worked much better, but the humidifier did the job in the end ) > to > > see how my body would respond. I wish I had formalized this a bit more, > but > > at the time I was just so thrilled at the results and at feeling better. > > > > A small infection remained, with a small amount of fluid that I could > still > > feel in that lower right lobe. Still, no fever, NOTHING. Finally, I was > > "done playing" and I set a regime of ~ 45 secs - 2 mins of colloidal > silver > > use every fifteen minutes, set according to tolerance. I learned rapidly > > that it's best to take one full breath of CS, followed by one normal > breath > > of air. I used the text-book pranayama breathing style for maximum > > effectiveness ( earlier, I couldn't even THINK about pranayama yet alone > > perform it! ). > > > > After about four hours of doing this, I was really starting to feel > better. > > Then, I repeated the same "protocol" later that night, this time, I was > > about two hours into it, when WAM my immune system fired up. I didn't > > measure my fever, but I would guess it hit about 102, with the sweats and > > aching body. I felt mildly miserable but triumphant. The fever broke > > sometime late that night ( or early in the morning ), and by the next day > I > > was on the rapid road to full recovery. This must have been about 10 days > > ago? ( sorry, time is not my strongpoint! ). > > > > Today, my lungs are clear and I feel like my old self. I probably > wouldn't > > have mentioned it to the list again, accept for the following: > > > > Three days ago, the same thing happened to my wife. The symptoms were > > EXACT, accept the fact that it was her LEFT side. > > > > I might play around with my health, but certainly not hers. In her case, > we > > had the tools available for use, and not 48 hours + later. Following from > > my personal experience, she was able to devolop a rapid profficiency with > > using the humidifier. At first, she felt that casual use would probably > > suffice. After STRONGLY reminding her of what my next eight hours were > > like, and then those that FOLLOWED, she wisely then chose to do the 15 > > minute usage "protocol". Keep in mind, it is not pleasant. It hurts. It > > doesn't hurt with healthy lungs, but when that mist reaches those infected > > tissues, for whatever reason, it's NOT fun. > > > > Now, an hour into the treatment, she was starting to get scared. To feel > > all of your strength start to drain away that rapidly is quite an > > experience. And THEN, not being able to breath... *shudders*. After > four > > hours, she paused, in a space of non-judgement ( I think she afraid to > hope > > she was feeling better! ). Now, I should mention that she did NOT get the > > reaction that I first received, probably because she started before one > > could feel the fluid "slogging" around in the lung. She used it for "an > > hour" before bedtime, and then the ALL IMPORTANT FIRST USE IN THE > MORNING!!! > > before the fluids can completely drain into the lower lungs via gravity. > > > > That day, she recovered fully, as far as I can tell ( I am real in tune > with > > my own body ). Today, she's certainly fine. > > > > I tell this personal experience in such a full monolog in the hopes that > > anyone out there listening, upon experiencing similiar inital symptoms, > > would ACT QUICKLY! If one waits too long, one is seriously jeapordizing > > one's health. If I were 20 years older, I don't think I would have > survived > > that first real colloidal silver treatment. I think I would have coded. > > THE DANGER IS THERE, THE SOLUTION IS TO ACT BEFORE it reaches that point. > > > > Furthermore, if one responds quickly enough, one can use this very > > aggressive "protocol", without limiting one's options. ( Remember, it was > > about eight hours into it that I really started to get concerned, and my > > wife started within the first hour of experiencing the first and > > hard-hitting pain in the lung ). > > > > I also tell this story in the hopes that if someone whom is of the mind to > > take personal responsibility in their experiments, having read the > numerous > > claims on the list that "normal" colloidal silver doesn't work, realizes > > that I used a very poorly brewed "batch" of colloidal silver, because it's > > all I had on hand. In fact, I filmed the process of making that EXACT > batch > > from beginning to end, and I "overburned" it by about thirty minutes just > to > > demonstrate the whole process on video. I let this 9 volt battery brew > > settle out for a few days ( not for any particular reason ), and later > > combined it with a current limited batch I had made with a Coyote low > > voltage generator, because I was too lazy to get a fresh container. I > don't > > usually do this, but I was doing quite a bit of photography and film work, > > and I'd just finished it up. I was planning on using that CS as a base > for > > a healing clay batch, and I didn't have a batch saved of "properly" made > CS, > > I had added all THAT to essential oil spritzers. > > > > Granted, you would want the best colloidal silver possible, IF possible. > I > > used a colloidal silver made from an example batch of how "not" to make > > colloidal silver. This stuff would have made the CS perfectionist's eyes > > widen, with the bajeegas crawling down the spine! ( It wasn't THAT bad, > > standard over-yellow rather than "gold-hue", that actually wasn't potent > > enough to keep the yellow color when added with a low PPM 32 ounce > > solution ). > > > > I also say this in partial justification why I get so irritated with > > comments such as "yellow colloidal silver is worthless". To some, they > > might just be words cast off without thought, just a part of a > high-sounding > > sentance with just the right punch to get that editorial flare and oh so > > "shining just right" lead in. To me, I ask myself, "If I would listen to > > this stuff like this, where would I be? Where would my wife be? Where > > would my son be?" > > > > Well I for one can say, I'm sitting right where I am, and without one shed > > of regret! > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > [email protected] -or- [email protected] > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > >
