Dear Roger,
Electrochemistry goes mostly over my head, but thank you, that seems
very clear. 

A while ago when the CS particles and ions discussion was about at its
loudest, I happened to spend some time looking at CS being made with my
new current limited generator. I was using filtered tap water ( to test
one of the worst cases ) in a tall narrow glass. The grey cloud slowly
streamed down and 'pooled' at the bottom. What intrigued me were the
silver H2 bubbles, very pretty, but they don't go anywhere, they seem to
redissolve. 
The persistent train of thought was that perhaps the effectiveness of CS
was due to H and not so much the silver. That maybe there was extra H
and with altered properties ... but more H would probably alter the pH
... so maybe its not more H but that the properties have changed. 
Does H or H2 have zeta potential or an 'angle'?  
Are we re-structuring the water beneficially? Can this be measured?
Is there such a thing as H30 ? Would this be light water? :) Is this
'clustered water'?
Does H get generated when using the HV arc processes?
?
?
Tony

[email protected] wrote:
> 
> Ivan and Others Interested in CS Electrochemistry:
> 
> I'm still trying to understand which electrode reactions take precedence over
> others.
> 
> Potential Anodic Reactions
> 
> (1) Ag -------> [Ag+] + 1e                      -0.80 volts (+ over voltage)
> (2) 4[OH-] ---------> O2(g) + 2H2O + 4e  -0.40 volts (+ over voltage)
> 
> Potential Cathodic Reactions
> 
> (3) [2H+]  +  2e  ------------>  H2(g)           +0.83 (with over voltage)
> (4) [Ag+]  +  1e  ------------>  Ag(s)           +0.80 (+ over voltage)
> (5) 2H2O + O2(g) + 4e -------> 4[OH-]      +0.40 (+ over voltage)
> 
> All other reactions occur at higher voltages, so I believe they can be
> ignored. I would appreciate knowing what the actual voltages are of the above
> reactions since most  over voltages have not been included. If reactions (3)
> and (5) occur at the cathode,
> can that explain why no net OH- is generated since any OH- produced would
> consume excess H+ based on the water constant? We know that a net quantity of
> Ag+ exists in water. So what is the corresponding anion towards the end of CS
> generation? Roger
> 
> 
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