Methonol can be produced using any biomass resulting in a net neutral carbon dioxide production/consumption loop. It's currently made from coal and sold wholesale for around .50-.75 per gallon. One of it's draw backs is the production of small amounts of formaldehyde when burned in an internal combustion engine. There are a few others such as being corrosive to some rubber parts. Perhaps a different sort of catalytic convertor can overcome that. But it is a very good hi test fuel at about 140 octane. ...less heat density than gas though, so, it takes more.
At 10:03 AM 5/4/01 -0600, you wrote: >One point of view regarding alcohol as a vehicle fuel is that it will cause >competition for food grains, causing shortages and increased grain prices. >Sorry, no documentation. > >James-Osbourne: Holmes > >-----Original Message----- >From: Ode Coyote [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Friday, May 04, 2001 10:25 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: CS>An alternative suggestion (off topic) > > Actually, pipeline shipments are sent to different tank farms via the >same pipe but seperated by a volume of water and switched to the proper >farm. So, you do buy Mobile gas that has been produced by Mobile refinery. > However, independent gas stations can buy from whoever is the cheapest >[they don't do refining]...so... boycotting one producer will drive the >price down only for that producer who will then sell to an independent at a >discount, who will sell more and drive the price back up. > The difference almost never exceeds a few cents. It's a highly competitive >market with a captive demand. They can't lose as long as you drive a >guzzler. The market just shifts around a little. > Time to go to renewable fuel sources such as biomass alchohol [or entirely >different technonolgies.] That'll decentralize production and give the >farmers a boost too. >But... the only way that'll happen is if fossil fuels lose their economic >advantage...which is what is happening. > Whether we like it or not, fossil fuels are a fossil technology destined >to become scarce just as demand peaks. >Ken > >At 08:00 AM 5/3/01 GMT, you wrote: >>On Wed, 2 May 2001 23:04:03 -0400, "spiroflx" >><[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>Perhaps you also have come to the conclusion that the current escalation >of >>>gas prices is a concerted plan on the part of the oil companies --- a >>>monopolistic power play, pure and simple. >> <snip> >>>Here is the simple and doable idea. For the rest of the year 2001, just >>>don't purchase gasoline from the biggest gasoline company in the world. >>>This company is comprised of two companies --- EXXON and MOBIL. >> >>Won't work. >> >>First off, Exxon and Mobil don't even have stations in many parts of >>the country (in my part of Iowa, for example). >> >>Second, Exxon/Mobil and other large refiners send their gasoline to >>tank farms which then supply most of the local stations. Variations >>in gasoline brand are made by adding substances to the gasoline at the >>time the tank truck is filled or when the underground tanks at the >>stations are filled. >> >>IOW, unless you know exactly which company fills the tank farms you >>won't know who supplies the gas for your local station. >> >>So ... there's no way to boycott just one company. >> >>-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF >> >> >>-- >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >>To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >>[email protected] -or- [email protected] >>with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >>To post, address your message to: [email protected] >>Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >>List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >> >> > >

